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  • Seahawks v. Rams - Part II

    Greetings again Rams fans...tough loss to the Pats today, but I wouldn't be too concerned - you get a Seahawk team that looks softer than Charmin toiletpaper on defense in a week...no Wistrom and more than likely no Ken Lucas (big loss...he had 2 picks in the first meeting).

    Offensively since we lost to you...we sputtered to an embarrasing loss in Arizona, but now seem to be finding our niche again - or simply put..#37 is getting the ball much more than he was earlier in the year, just wish he'd slow down so we can afford to keep him!

    This should be a real hard fought game on Sunday...and if I wasn't worried enough about playing you during a semi-slump, now we get to play a pissed off Rams team that will be very focused and hungry for a stranglehold on the division tiebreakers.

    Good luck this weekend - I'll be floating around here reading your thoughts on this game... :king:

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    Re: Seahawks v. Rams - Part II

    These Hawk fans that come in here must be from seahawks.net. They know how to act over there, they are a good bunch of NFL fans. Wrong team yes but good fans anyways.
    Good luck to you to Hasselbeck8MVP.

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    • #3
      Re: Seahawks v. Rams - Part II

      Greetings and salutations to ClanRam.

      Lot of water has passed under the bridge since Volume I of Rams/Seahawks '04. That final 8 minutes of the game in Seattle nearly sucked the life out of the team and fans alike. I can only hope that four games later, the Seahawks have finally managed to bury those 8 minutes in the darkest recesses of their minds where it truly belongs. Lot of water has gone under the bridge for the Rams as well. Culminating this week with Martz calling out the team in almost a Callahan-esque manner. The once almost invincible home dome advantage has been shattered.

      I think both teams have a lot riding on this game. I don't think a loss will automatically signal the end for either team, but it will sure give the winner a leg up on the division race, and could be a harbinger of things to come through the second half of the season.

      Will the Seahawks continue to lean on Alexander as they have in the last two wins? Will the Rams players respond to Martz calling them out and performing up to his expectations? Will the Seahawks Defense have enough to stop the Rams defense without perhaps Wistrom and Lucas? Will the Seahawks be able to win the time of possession and field position battle by running the ball? Will the Seahawks be able to play a complete 60 minutes, like they did for the first 52 in the first meeting? Will the Rams be able to play 60 minutes like they did for the last 8 in the first meeting?

      As you can see, I have many more questions than answers. I think this a game that we will be talking about at the end of the season though, regardless what the outcome is.

      Enjoy the game.

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        Re: Seahawks v. Rams - Part II

        Originally posted by RamTime
        These Hawk fans that come in here must be from seahawks.net.
        RamTime, stop by and say hello. People have been asking about you ;)

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        • #5
          Re: Seahawks v. Rams - Part II

          Yeah, what is it with these Seahawk fans? Polite, knowledgable, reasonable... nothing really to hate. Almost makes me miss the days when the Whiners were our chief rival.


          Almost.

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          • r8rh8rmike
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            Just when the Seahawks think they shook the monkey, along comes the Ram dominance in Seattle issue. One of these teams will take a big hit to their mental health on Sunday. I'm looking forward to Isaac Bruce pointing to his helmet on a conquered Qwest Field. I know how you Seahawk fans feel about the good Reverend and I'm sure we all hope he plays, albeit for different reasons.

            A Ram win would turn the tables in so many ways, as would a win for the Seahawks. This game is SO huge for both teams in so many ways. It should be a good one.
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          • RamDez
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            Of the Post-Dispatch
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            Quarterback Matt Hasselbeck, who arrived in town for the 2001 season, had no idea such jokes were being told. "That would hurt my feelings," he said. He meant it. The one-liner didn't make him laugh.

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            Although the Rams are the defending NFC West champions, the Seahawks are considered the team to beat, and they are also wearing the label "legitimate Super Bowl contender."

            All this from a team whose road record over the years has been another surefire laugh line, a team that had never quite captured the heart or mind of its city. Rams defensive end Bryce Fisher, who grew up in Seattle, is typical. He and his friends grew up rooting for the Raiders because the Seahawks were so bad.

            But for Sunday's game against the Rams at Quest Field, coach Mike Holmgren is expecting that the sold-out stadium full of screaming fans will be one of his team's advantages.

            "It's kind of like when it first happened in St. Louis," Wistrom said. "How fired up everybody was, how new it was to everybody. And the energy that you can feel. It's very exciting to be a part of something like that again, where everyone's appreciated and fans are fired up about it. All everybody wants to talk about is the 'Hawks right now."

            In this, his sixth season in Seattle after 13 successful seasons at Green Bay, Holmgren has finally put the Seahawks where he always believed they could be.

            "If the organization is willing to stay with you - if they believe in you, first of all . . . and they give you enough time, you should be able to improve," Holmgren said. "And they have done that with us. Now we have pretty good depth, our money situation's in pretty good shape capwise. Hopefully we can keep this thing going and get into the playoffs again."
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          • r8rh8rmike
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            I honestly don’t know what to make of this game, but nothing would surprise me.
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          • RamDez
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            KIRKLAND -- Watching the St. Louis Rams kick the gold dust out of the ***** in San Francisco on Sunday was like watching what the Seahawks did to the once-proud ***** the week before at Qwest Field.

            It also prompted similar questions. Are the Rams (and Seahawks) that good? Or is it that the ***** are that bad?

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            "It's obvious San Francisco is having some problems," All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson said yesterday, when the Seahawks resumed practicing after having the previous four days off during their bye week.

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