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  • That was the worst performance....

    I have seen since the banks days. Not counting the Warner injury season. They had exactly what they wanted on offense, and couldnt produce. The defense couldnt stop a pop warner team. Pathetic. At this point I see this team falling apart at the seams.


  • #2
    Re: That was the worst performance....

    I just don't think we are as good as most of us think. We can be at times but this team just isn't consistent. Especially defensively. The ONLY bright spot I can point at defensively is the Front Four. After that, it's been worse than the movie Gigli.


    • #3
      Re: That was the worst performance....

      Originally posted by txramsfan
      I just don't think we are as good as most of us think. We can be at times but this team just isn't consistent. Especially defensively. The ONLY bright spot I can point at defensively is the Front Four. After that, it's been worse than the movie Gigli.
      Tx, I agree. This team isn't the talent-laden squad of year's past, but they're not as bad as they've played this year. Talent-wise, this team should be 6-2 this year (Atlanta just beat us, and Seattle should have). Even with a tougher 2nd half, we'd be looking at 10-6. That's about right for this team, but we're no where near that. We're facing another 7-9, and this team (while not '99 and certainly not '01) is better than 7-9. Think about players who have really slipped from last year to this year: Little, Polley, Thomas, Butler, Arch, Aeneas. That's over half the defense that have downgraded their game. How can the majority of a starting unit be worse than they were the year before? And just look at them on the field. They seem to be a step behind and completely lifeless. I just don't understand how this can happen to so many players at the same time. With Aeneas maybe it's just his time to roll over and go away. Maybe Little's mind is in a court room. I don't know, but what I'm getting at is this: Unless they're all drinking from the same trough, I think it's time to say that this particular brand of defense (ie. Marmie ball) is not working. I'm not for firing a coach in the middle of a season, but they have to do something or risk a 4-12 year. There's no gimmes on the back side of our schedule and as bad as I hate to say this, the D just isn't getting better. It's time to have a "sit down" and figure out what has to be done on the defensive side of the house to finish out the year, because status quo ain't gettin' it done.
      The more things change, the more they stay the same.


      • #4
        Re: That was the worst performance....

        I agree, it also shows just how good Lovie really was. The defense is defenseless. The offense could'nt get anything going with troy brown playing both ways!! Plus they were at home. I admit I didnt see the red flag some of you were waiving earlier this season, I see it now. That was putrid.


        • #5
          Re: That was the worst performance....

          If I remember correctly, Lovie's defense missed a lot of tackles and gave up their share of yards, too. He certainly wasn't masterminding a top five defense here in St. Louis. The main difference is turnovers, so I think we should be concentrating on that. Find out why it is we're not forcing them like we used to (perhaps it's Marmie's more complex defensive scheme) and fix it.


          • #6
            Re: That was the worst performance....

            Actually I think they did break the top 5 once. I see your point but those guys looked lost out there on defense. I honestly think that from play to play thier is at least one player who doesnt know his responsability on that play. Lovie took chances and got burned at times, marmies defense just looks confused and lost. and ineffective.


            • #7
              Re: That was the worst performance....

              Well, I'll just dido what you guys have posted. This team is in for a big let down if the ship dose not get righted in a hurry.

              Maybe Kollar should be promoted to D coordenator.

              Adm. William "Bull" Halsey


              • #8
                Re: That was the worst performance....

                Lovie gone to Chi...Bears D has really improved. Marmie comes to St Lou...Rams D spins further downward with each game...IRONICALLY the Cards D has IMPROVED!! Who lobbied to bring in his Ol buddie Larry M...the guy who steered the WORST D IN THE NFL over the last 2-3 seasons?? Combine this MINOR issue with the SICKENING draft experiments...bizarre game management...failure to get the team prepared for games with LEAGUE WEAKLINGS,etc, etc. How long does this GARBAGE have to go on?? Just how OBVIOUSLY STUPID does your team leader have to be before people GET IT!?!
                "You people point your 'f'in' finger and say theres the bad guy....what that make you....good?" Tony Montana


                • #9
                  Re: That was the worst performance....

                  Originally posted by RAMMAN68
                  Well, I'll just dido what you guys have posted. This team is in for a big let down if the ship dose not get righted in a hurry.

                  Maybe Kollar should be promoted to D coordenator.

                  I'm not giving up hope, too much talent on this team. I just hope Martz recognizes he has some serious fixing to do. And not let his arrogance get in the way. If he does, I also agree time to say buh bye to martz. You can only get away with so much of "I dont care if they know what were gonna do, I'm gonna do it anyway." the whole team looked inept, and bellicheck was one step ahead of martz the whole game. being predictable is starting to catch up to martz. dont think that future foes arent taking note.


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