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    Martz lashes out at players
    By Jeff Gordon
    STLtoday.com Sports
    11/08/2004

    Rams coach Mike Martz is tired of taking the fall for poor player performance.

    So "Mad Mike" was "Really Angry Mike" on Monday – and he said as much during his news conference at Rams Park.

    “This is my fifth year doing this,” Martz said. “I’ve never tried to mislead you, sugar-coat anything. If I’ve screwed something up, I’ll tell you. I try to take a bullet whenever I can for somebody to help them.

    "There comes a time when some of these guys just have to play. They just have to play.

    “Players make plays. That’s the way it is. That’s not a cop-out or brushing it off on guys. I’m upset. We’ve got some guys we’re counting on, they have to step up. That’s the way it is.”

    Here are some other highlights of his heated chat with reporters:


    -On his team’s sloppy play against the Patriots:

    “That’s a good football team, they played very well. The mistakes we made in that game we obviously can’t do against a good football team. The fumbled punt . . . the fake field goal, obviously, the fumble before the half ends up being a six-point swing, potentially . . . those are the kinds of things that put the defense on a short field.

    “The intensity was good, but we did not play well in certain areas. Those are things we have to rectify. We met today and made some changes. We kind of understand what needs to be done at this point; now it’s a question of getting it done.”


    -On what changes may be made:

    “We understand what our problems are, what we need to address. There may be some personnel changes. Just a couple things we have to address. There are things we can do. The problem is not real hard to identify. The solution is hard. I’m confident we will get that done.

    “There are some things that rose up in this game that I didn’t believe were problems in the past. There are some areas that we’ve played very well in that we did not play very well in (Sunday). The consistency is what we need out of the guys.”


    -On what went wrong on the Patriots’ fake field goal:

    “We practiced that all week, the exact same thing, several times. Walked through it, talked about it, ran it. What had happened is they had lined up quickly, we were going onto the field, the two corners decided they were going to switch. One corner had a sore shoulder. As they were switching, (the Patriots) got the pass off.

    “It’s one of those things. They recognized it, but they were caught in the middle of changing over. It ended up becoming a comedy of errors, really, more than anything else. The smart thing to do would have been to call time out. We recognized it . . . call a timeout is what you would have liked to do against the fake punt in Miami, too.

    “It’s inexcusable, really. I’m really kind of at a loss for words on that."


    -On holes in the rush defense:

    “That is one of the issues that we needed to address. I think I have a pretty good understanding looking at the tape, what we needed to do. I talked to (defensive coordinator) Larry (Marmie) for quite some time this morning. I talked to our players. I have a pretty good feel for it.”


    -On the holes in pass protection:

    “We just didn’t play well there. They know that. It’s not a secret, we all saw it, we didn’t play very well. We’ve played much better in the past. I’m confident we’ll do that again. I’m disappointed, very disappointed, in the way we all played. We’re better than that, I think.”


    -On changing his pass protection calls as the game progressed:

    “Yeah, we did. The thing I got caught up in is there was such a mismatch, cover-wise, to throw four wide receivers out there, I just felt like we could block them. At the end of the game, we were.

    “Right before the half, when Marc (Bulger) scrambles out of there and unfortunately makes a bad decision to try to throw the ball, we get the fumble, we had them all in blocking, basically – and we got pressure. Then what do you do? We have that sack coming out at the beginning of the second half where we got one, two, three, four, five, six guys, seven guys blocking and we get beat.

    “When you’ve got a guy to block, you’ve got to block him. There weren’t any magical schemes that Bill (Belichick) did or they did. There wasn’t anything magical about it. When you’ve got to block a guy, you’ve got to block him.”


    -On the failure to exploit receiver Troy Brown playing cornerback:

    “We were able to get a guy or two open occasionally. Troy, for all his credit as a DB . . . it doesn’t take much to play defensive back when all you ever do is grab ahold of guys. We've got (pictures of Rams receiver Shaun McDonald) running across the field with (Brown) in his hip pocket. For the first seven yards, he’s got ahold of (McDonald's) jersey. I wouldn’t get too excited about him as DB.”


    -On whether he fears for Bulger’s safety:

    “Nah, shoot . . . we’ve got six or seven quarterbacks . . . of course I’m worried about his health. I’m worried about all our guys. I understand the issue with Marc.”


    -On whether he considered throwing more slant passes to counter the pass rush:

    “We did. We’re in the shotgun and we threw a bunch of slants, I think. Got it going. Then you’ve got to start getting some chunks when we’re down. We max protected, we changed up.”


    -On the continuing failure to force turnovers:

    “We’re not getting enough guys on the ball. We’re not gang-tackling. We’re not getting enough people on the ball carrier, plain and simple.

    "We’re not getting off blocks, we’re not getting to the ball, not getting the ball out. It’s very clear. . . . They have to get off blocks and all 11 on the ball carrier, not rely on one or two guys to make a play.”

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    Re: Martz lashes out at players

    The last question of the day was cut short as Martz mumbled something about "I have to go. I need to go to Wal Mart to get new underwear, but Wopner is coming on..."

    Heck, we can fix that...
    This space for rent...

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      Re: Martz lashes out at players

      Thats bull.

      Mike Martz stands up and tells it like it is and still we get a smart assed coment and a cheap shot at him.

      What more do you want from Martz?

      PS, if it was meant to be funny, most people would add a

      So I take it to be a cheap shot

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      • #4
        Re: Martz lashes out at players

        Actually, it was both. And I did forget to use the ;) . Sorry.

        What do I want him to do? I want him to quit saying (paraphrasing) "We know what the problems are, we can fix that" and do it. Start with his coaching and then work on the rest of the team.
        This space for rent...

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        • #5
          Re: Martz lashes out at players

          Frankly, I'm glad to see Martz finally getting mad.

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          • #6
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            Emotion....... God ,I haven't seen that in a feww years!

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            • #7
              Re: Martz lashes out at players

              Originally posted by AvengerRam
              Frankly, I'm glad to see Martz finally getting mad.
              I agree, it could be a positive step. Now, don't tell us that you are going to fix it. Fix it... Actions speak louder than words.
              This space for rent...

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                “This is my fifth year doing this,” Martz said. “I’ve never tried to mislead you, sugar-coat anything.
                ?????????????????

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                • #9
                  Re: Martz lashes out at players

                  Of all the weeks for the Rams to get even more fired up...

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                  • #10
                    Re: Martz lashes out at players

                    I'm really curious to see how the team will respond to this. It could fire them up, or it could be the beginning of the end for Martz if the players think he's another Calahan. What is your read on the situation? Will this fire the team up, or burn them out?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Martz lashes out at players

                      can you see robert thomas and Polley ever getting fired up !!

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                      • #12
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                        I couldn't agree more AV, GREAT to see Martz fired up!!!!!


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                        • #13
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                          I just HOPE the players get fired up.
                          JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS
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                          "HIT HARD, HIT FAST, AND HIT OFTEN"
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                          • #14
                            Re: Martz lashes out at players

                            Originally posted by akseahawkfan
                            I'm really curious to see how the team will respond to this. It could fire them up, or it could be the beginning of the end for Martz if the players think he's another Calahan. What is your read on the situation? Will this fire the team up, or burn them out?
                            I don't see this in any way like the Faider situation with Calahan. It's obvious his players didn't respect him. It's pretty clear that the majority of Ram players love and respect Martz. Being a buddy to your players is not a bad thing, but it can create awkward situations when the whip needs to come down. For the Rams to be successful, I think Martz is going to have to continue to call some people out get some people angry, and perhaps be less of a buddy until things change.

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                              Re: Martz lashes out at players

                              Originally posted by akseahawkfan
                              I'm really curious to see how the team will respond to this. It could fire them up, or it could be the beginning of the end for Martz if the players think he's another Calahan. What is your read on the situation? Will this fire the team up, or burn them out?
                              It's a fair question. Some around here like to use one or two statements of Martz by players to stake out the position that he is a player's coach and well liked. Others have pointed to wrong route running as enough of an excuse for Martz to get mad and release a player. He has already been seen to rant and yell on the sideline so "getting mad" through the media is not new and seems like a lot of posturing. Just the antics of the lovable eccentric.

                              I'm inclined to believe when he does rant it is now following on deaf ears in some parts. It strikes me as much of what he says now is going in one ear and out the other. Maybe that is a reflection on the players more than him, but either way he has delegated too much D to the wrong people and not enough O to the right ones. At this point, the call is like a coin toss, no matter how much you think you know about this team, you still don't know enough to know how the coin will land.

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                              • RamWraith
                                Martz finally speaks out!!!
                                by RamWraith
                                Martz lashes out at players


                                By Jeff Gordon
                                STLtoday.com Sports
                                11/08/2004
                                Rams coach Mike Martz is tired of taking the fall for poor player performance.

                                So "Mad Mike" was "Really Angry Mike" on Monday – and he said as much during his news conference at Rams Park.

                                “This is my fifth year doing this,” Martz said. “I’ve never tried to mislead you, sugar-coat anything. If I’ve screwed something up, I’ll tell you. I try to take a bullet whenever I can for somebody to help them.

                                "There comes a time when some of these guys just have to play. They just have to play.

                                “Players make plays. That’s the way it is. That’s not a cop-out or brushing it off on guys. I’m upset. We’ve got some guys we’re counting on, they have to step up. That’s the way it is.”

                                Here are some other highlights of his heated chat with reporters:


                                On his team’s sloppy play against the Patriots:

                                “That’s a good football team, they played very well. The mistakes we made in that game we obviously can’t do against a good football team. The fumbled punt . . . the fake field goal, obviously, the fumble before the half ends up being a six-point swing, potentially . . . those are the kinds of things that put the defense on a short field.

                                “The intensity was good, but we did not play well in certain areas. Those are things we have to rectify. We met today and made some changes. We kind of understand what needs to be done at this point; now it’s a question of getting it done.”


                                On what changes may be made:

                                “We understand what our problems are, what we need to address. There may be some personnel changes. Just a couple things we have to address. There are things we can do. The problem is not real hard to identify. The solution is hard. I’m confident we will get that done.

                                “There are some things that rose up in this game that I didn’t believe were problems in the past. There are some areas that we’ve played very well in that we did not play very well in (Sunday). The consistency is what we need out of the guys.”


                                On what went wrong on the Patriots’ fake field goal:

                                “We practiced that all week, the exact same thing, several times. Walked through it, talked about it, ran it. What had happened is they had lined up quickly, we were going onto the field, the two corners decided they were going to switch. One corner had a sore shoulder. As they were switching, (the Patriots) got the pass off.

                                “It’s one of those things. They recognized it, but they were caught in the middle of changing over. It ended up becoming a comedy of errors, really, more than anything else. The smart thing to do would have been to call time out. We recognized it . . . call a timeout is what you would have liked to do against the fake...
                                -11-08-2004, 06:05 PM
                              • Nick
                                Martz: 'We have to fix some things'
                                by Nick
                                Martz: 'We have to fix some things'
                                BY JEFF GORDON
                                STLtoday.com Sports
                                09/20/2004

                                Rams coach Mike Martz still expects big things from his football team.

                                But after that 34-17 loss in Atlanta, Martz said there will be plenty of work to do at Rams Park.

                                "We have some things to clean up," Martz said. "That stuff doesn't happen overnight. But we're going to end up being a real good team.

                                "But we have to fix some things, no question about it."

                                Here are some other highlights of his Q & A session with reporters:


                                On what went wrong in Atlanta:

                                "They got us on our heels on all three phases of the game, and on the road, this team needs to learn to fight back. I thought that we did that, getting the game back to a 17-17 position. Then we did not make a play on a reverse and a couple of other things happened offensively. We did not finish this thing the way you would like to see us do it. There are some lessons to be learned from this.

                                "There were a lot of mistakes in this game, more mistakes than we would have thought. I think our players did prepare well. Again, in that environment, we just didn't see it on the field.

                                "This is one of the few times in my career that we practiced very well and did not play well. A lot of it has to do with getting down early and not responding well as a football team."

                                "Coming out of our own end zone, we have a penalty on a kickoff return that's unnecessary. We get into a little bit of a panic offensively, you know, and put ourselves in a hole.

                                "A young team like this, particularly on defense, a lot of the young players have not had that kind of adversity. When you get down like that, you cannot panic . . . you just have to stay focused, know how to respond. You teach them to respond. That's where we are with this.

                                "What's happened has happened. Now you have to go back and make the corrections. We understand what we need to do this week to get it done. Now the process begins."


                                On why the game went south:

                                "We were in position to make a play and didn't do it. We had some penalties . . . this was problematic throughout the game, whether it was a facemask penalty or false start or all those things. We just can't have those, particularly at critical times. We made mistakes at critical times that you just can't make.

                                "When the game is that close and there is a play that's there to be made, you have to make that play. In those three phases of the game, when we had to make a play, we couldn't. They need to learn from that. There are a lot of things that need to be straightened out."


                                On the struggles against the run:

                                "A lot of those two-back runs were...
                                -09-20-2004, 09:19 PM
                              • RamWraith
                                Martz on the Mike
                                by RamWraith
                                Head Coach Mike Martz
                                Tuesday, September 21, 2004

                                (Opening comments)
                                “Obviously we are disappointed with the game yesterday. I think that they got us on our heels in all three phases. On the road, this team needs to learn to fight back. I think we did that and got the game back to 17-17, then we just did not make a play on the reverse and a couple of other things happened offensively, and we didn’t finish this thing the way you would like to see it. There are some lessons to be learned from this game. We have gone through a lot of things with our players today. There were a lot of mistakes in this game. More mistakes than we would’ve thought. We prepared well, and again, in that environment, we just didn’t see it on the field. We just need to put this one to bed, learn from it, and get ready for the Saints.”

                                (On responding to a loss)
                                “We have been in so many of these games in the last five or six years, that our veterans, Isaac (Bruce), Torry, (Holt), and Marshall (Faulk), know how to respond. What’s happened, has happened. Now you just have to go back and make the corrections. We understand what we need to do this week to get it done, now the process begins.”

                                (On giving up a score after tying the game)
                                “I felt we were in positions to make plays, and didn’t do it. We had some penalties. This was problematic throughout the game. Whether it’s a face mask penalty or a false start, you just can’t have those, particularly in critical times. And we made mistakes at critical times that you just can’t make. When the game is that close, and there is a play there to be made, you just have to make that play. When we needed to make a play, we couldn’t make it. You need to learn from that. There are a lot of things that need to straighten out.

                                (On playing on the road)
                                “I think that a young team like this, particularly on defense, where we have a lot of young players, have not had that kind of adversity. When you get down like that, you cannot panic and you just have to stay focused, and know how to respond. You need to teach them how to respond. They need to learn that lesson. On the sideline, it was real good when we were on our way back to tying that game up. We just need to finish it at that point. And again, making plays that are critical in the game, that’s the most critical game of the year right there. At that point you need to step up and make those plays.”

                                (On stopping the run)
                                “A lot of those two-back runs were at the end of the game were, obviously, a let down. Before that they were averaging about three yards a rush. Their two-back run against the defense was, below what you would want as a football team. Vick, that whole situation, really hurt us. They did a nice job of changing up what they do and getting (Vick) out to the perimeter and challenging us out there. We made a couple of changes at half-time,...
                                -09-22-2004, 06:06 AM
                              • RamWraith
                                Rams Q-and-A: Martz on Monday
                                by RamWraith
                                Compiled by Jeff Gordon
                                STLtoday.com Sports
                                Monday, Nov. 15 2004

                                Rams coach Mike Martz was in a predictably good mood the day after his team
                                handled the Seattle Seahawks 23-12.

                                “We’re very pleased with the effort of this football team, the intensity we
                                were able to keep throughout the game,” Martz said. “It didn’t wane at any
                                time. Even with some of the big plays they were able to hit on our defense, we
                                were able to run to the ball.

                                “We had some mistakes in the running game. We had some guys out of place and
                                make a mental error, which resulted in some big plays. They made some plays,
                                obviously, they are a good football team. They are going to do that.

                                “A couple of real big indications would be the red zone stops, to get down in
                                that situation and not let them in and hold them out from scoring touchdowns
                                speaks volumes about the resolve and the tenacity.

                                “We didn’t do everything right, there is no question about that. There is a lot
                                to fix and continue to get better that. As long as you play with that type of
                                attitude and enthusiasm, you can accomplish an awful lot.”

                                Here were some other highlights of the news conference:

                                On the play of the offensive line:

                                “We had to shake things up there in the fourth quarter. For Grant (Williams) to
                                go to left tackle, (Chris Dishman) has got a knee situation and Tommy (Nutten)
                                goes in and plays very well. It has taken him some time to get his weight and
                                his strength back up, but at this point he’s back up to where he was when he
                                left, weight-wise and strength-wise. I’m very confident about his ability to
                                start at left guard.

                                “Blaine Saipaia came in and did a terrific job. There is a lot to like about
                                (Saipaia). Coming out of college, we had such a high grade on him. We kind of
                                tracked him a little bit. We were able to get ahold of him, bring him in here.
                                As we went through practice, it became very evident he has excellent feet. He
                                has got terrific punch. He’s a strong guy, learns quickly, is a quick study on
                                a lot of the stuff. Very physical player. When we moved him to right tackle, he
                                was a fish out of water. He didn’t take to the pass rush very well. But over
                                time, he’s done a great job on that.

                                "He has enough confidence to play and not be stressed out. He is very poised. I
                                wasn’t sure he would play as well as he did. People say he’s too short at I
                                guess 6-3 or whatever, I don’t understand that. I don’t know. If you block
                                them, that’s good enough.

                                “I felt like the New England game was an exception to what this group really
                                is. I thought they responded very well. Anytime you rush for 200 yards against
                                anybody, that...
                                -11-16-2004, 06:40 AM
                              • RamWraith
                                Martz on Monday: Still simmering over Sunday
                                by RamWraith
                                Compiled By Jeff Gordon
                                STLtoday.com Sports
                                10/03/2005

                                Are you still upset about how the Rams played Sunday?

                                You’ve got company. Coach Mike Martz is still simmering, too. He didn’t rub the game video in the players’ faces Monday, but he hadn’t forgotten the poor performances and blown plays in the 44-24 loss at Giants Stadium.

                                Corrective action will be taken.

                                “I was disappointed with some things that happened to us on defense,” Martz said at his Monday news conference. “It’s not the defense as a whole, it’s not what we’re running on defense. We’ve got some guys that didn’t play as well as we have in the past. You can’t have one or two guys do that, you’re going to give up big plays. We had a couple of big plays in that game that have no business ever happening.

                                “For whatever reason, they did occur. We didn’t play well. Anytime you score five straight possessions . . . there are a lot of things you have to look at. There are some very significant concern about where this football team is.”

                                But he chose not to browbeat the team Monday.

                                “I believe this is an anomaly, I really do,” he said. “I did not look at this tape with these players. We’re going to move on. We’ve got to get ready to play Seattle. I understand what we need to do from a coaching perspective to get this right. Some of the guys we have . . . that did not play well, that would be confronted and corrected and if we have to make a change, we make a change.”

                                “We need to get back on track to where we were building and get there quickly. I think we can do that. We’re not going do that by going back and rehashing what happened here last week. I know what happened. You all know what happened, you saw it. An old-fashioned whupping is what we took.

                                “I’m not very pleased with some of the guys and their effort. We’ll rectify that. That I know we can fix.”

                                “We’ll move on. If it shows its ugly head again, than we will make a change. That’s the way it’s going to be.”


                                Here was Martz’s take on a number of other issues:

                                On costly mistakes made by the safeties:

                                “There were a couple of big plays by safeties that hurt us bad in this game, early too, where the receiver gets behind everybody. When we’re in Cover-2, that should never happen. There is no excuse for it. It’s just he decided to do what he wants to do, whatever that was. He’s got no business being up there. Those are the kinds of things that will be dealt with. That kind of thing can never be accepted. It can’t happen or else you cannot play.”

                                “It takes just a few players to hurt a defense badly.”


                                On the cornerbacks getting burned by rangy Giants receiver Plaxico Burress:

                                “Yeah, he had a big day. We’ll get them some help. We’ll change some things. There are some coaching issues...
                                -10-03-2005, 05:39 PM
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