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    Well, where to begin. First, Martz didn't commit the 8 turnovers. Second, he didn't jump offsides with 2 minutes to play to seal the doom. How can a team be so utterly, utterly amazing in one half and look like the bad news bears in football gear the next? And we were stupid enough to have the false illusions of going undefeated, 19-0. I don't mean to speak for others, but it popped into my head a time or two. What was Warner doing today? Did he forget who he was supposed to throw to? And then when he was on target the receivers dropped the ball. And when he was on target and the receivers caught it, they soon fumbled it. I would much rather lose a game like we played against NYG than lose like we did today. As bad as they played, they would have won the game. There is no doubt in my mind that we were going to drive the field and either score a game-winning touchdown or at least a field goal to tie it up and send it to overtime where we would win.....if they just don't jump offsides. I would fine McCleon $1 million dollars...not for the mistake, but for being stupid. If he stays on side, NO kicks the field goal and we get the ball back for the game winning score...no doubt about it. It's a shame we have a game like this. NO deserves the credit for their comback and the Rams deserve exactly what they got-a loss. Martz can only call the plays, he can't throw it, catch it, hold onto it, or tackle. over and out jd

  • #2
    Martz called great game.

    We could of should of the whole second half. 8 total turnovers!!!
    And still in shape to win.? Some really awsome defensive plays didn't go to waste but didn't help either. A perfect season did cross my mind but we went 6-0 and won it all. So we'll have to do it again.
    Two weeks to heal and to stew about this one should get us ready to deal with the rest of our division.

    :upset: :mask: :mask:
    Also I think it was Bly offsides and blocked the first one and again on the last one.

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    • #3
      A perfect season !! Never crossed my mind.

      I always thought we would loose a few games and I even said we would loose one to the aints. Its all well and good smacking for fun but true fans can look past these things.

      What hurts on that loss yesterday, was the way in which we lost. We self destructed in the second half. This allowed a good team to take advantage of us. And they did. We should never forget that.

      The Rams lost to a good team. Thats what makes this the NFL. Any team can win.

      I still think we go 12 and 4 this year.
      :mask:

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      • #4
        15-1 POSSABLE?

        Originally posted by RamDez
        A perfect season !! Never crossed my mind.

        I always thought we would loose a few games and I even said we would loose one to the aints. Its all well and good smacking for fun but true fans can look past these things.

        What hurts on that loss yesterday, was the way in which we lost. We self destructed in the second half. This allowed a good team to take advantage of us. And they did. We should never forget that.

        The Rams lost to a good team. Thats what makes this the NFL. Any team can win.

        I still think we go 12 and 4 this year.
        :mask:
        15-1 IS VERY POSSIBLE THIS YEAR AND RESPECTABLE, I MISSED THE GAME BUT I DID WATCH SOME HIGHLIGHTS, I CANT BLAME THE COACHING BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE QUALITY OF THE RAMS COACHES. EIGHT TURNOVERS, WHEN I PLAYED IN FOOTBALL WE WON BY HOLDING ON TO THE BALL. "TREAT THIS BALL LIKE IT'S YOUR GIRLFRIENDS VIRTUE."YOU CANT WIN BY GIVING THE AWAY ALLTHE TIME. MARSHALL WILL BE BACK AND THINGS WILL GET BACK TO NORMAL WINNING GORAMS:rolleyes: :<>

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        • #5
          i agree with dez, a perfect season was never meant to be. The Saints didn't play that well, we just gave them plenty of opportunity to take the game away from us and they did. i also thought we'd split the series and i still do. The game in NO should be quite the beatdown....i hope.

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          • #6
            Let's not let this one get us down. For me, it's not so much that we lost, it's WHO we lost to. But the truth is that the Aints did not beat the Rams, the Rams beat the Rams. All those turnovers, who wouldn't win with that kind of advantage? Give the Aints credit for coming back and taking it from us though. We opened the game on a great note but, for whatever reason, couldn't keep that rhythm going. It even seemed at one point that the whole tone of the game changed and that was before halftime. Not so sorry now that I didn't actually get to SEE the game, though I would have liked to have seen Wistrom's sacks. Points allowed is deceiving because the defense played well. It's hard to stop a team that keeps getting the ball handed to them so close to our goalline.

            Sigh of relief that this is a bye week, time to mend our souls and minds as well as our bodies.

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            • #7
              agree

              Originally posted by MsWistRAM
              Let's not let this one get us down. For me, it's not so much that we lost, it's WHO we lost to. But the truth is that the Aints did not beat the Rams, the Rams beat the Rams. All those turnovers, who wouldn't win with that kind of advantage? Give the Aints credit for coming back and taking it from us though. We opened the game on a great note but, for whatever reason, couldn't keep that rhythm going. It even seemed at one point that the whole tone of the game changed and that was before halftime. Not so sorry now that I didn't actually get to SEE the game, though I would have liked to have seen Wistrom's sacks. Points allowed is deceiving because the defense played well. It's hard to stop a team that keeps getting the ball handed to them so close to our goalline.

              Sigh of relief that this is a bye week, time to mend our souls and minds as well as our bodies.
              You are totally right about the Saints they did a good job with our turnovers, the worst team in the league could have done what the Saints did, but it was the Saints and it bothers me alot. Anyway, we'll take a week off, regroup, and continue with the rest of the season. Sleeper and a team to watch is, DaBears!

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              • #8
                Turning over the football – 8 times – it’s a wonder the RAMS didn’t get beat more soundly. But even with 8 turnovers they almost had the chance to pull it out. Turnovers are costly.
                The defense held it’s ground, except for a couple of long pass plays, and they seem to be getting better every week.
                Home field advantage is just that. Take off and run with it the entire game, not just the first half.
                Losing within the division, especially to the Aints – is not good, but as long as the Winers keep losing, I’m happy!

                Always
                A
                RAMS
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                GO RAMS !!
                Always a Rams Fan............

                Rex Allen Markel

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                • #9
                  All the smack talk from NO will feul the Rams for a Victory on Monday Night Football. Sunday's loss will serve the team. It's the juice that's going to get us home field advantage. It's the juice that's going to ensure that we make it to the Super Bowl. :<>

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                  • #10
                    We turned the ball over 8 times and lost. Period. That's it. There are no MORAL victories in the NFL; just look at the Giants. Since their so called moral victory against the Rams, they haven't showed up. The Redskins beat them last week. What I am saying is that you have to show up and play 60 minutes of football every week. We only played 30 minutes the other day. The trick plays didn't kill us, the defense didn't really kill us, penalties, turnovers, and special teams again killed us. Penalties and turnovers can be taken care of with a little more discipline. Special teams takes talent and currently we don't have that type of talent. Folks, we got beat Sunday. Its over. The players aren't looking back, just read Tuesday's sports page at the post page. We will get beat again, and again, and I agree with Dez, probably again. 12-4 looks real good this year in the NFC. I'm just glad we got off to such a torrid start.

                    p.s. That is my old ships patch when I was in the Navy. God Bless our Troops.

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                    • #11
                      I think everyone in this thread had good, reasonable things to say about the loss. I'm not claiming a Rams moral victory -- but, it isn't nonsense to say that we came close. Yes, we lost. Period; and losing game seven isn't the worst thing that can happen to a team. It's a good time to do it if you're going to do it. Better to stew over a loss now then in the post season -- maybe it will do them some good to come back down to Earth and remember to play for 60 minutes rather than 30.

                      The Rams will not follow the Giants' lead. One of the Giants' problems is that they don't have an offense to get the job done. The Rams do. They had a bad game. I don't think 12-4 looks good. Have you looked at SF's schedule? It would be a shame see the Rams go in on a wild card, but I think it would be an even worse shame to assume we'll lose three more games because we fell apart on Sunday. The Rams will rule the West 14-2.
                      and it will take 14-2 to win the West.

                      (hopefully the second loss won't be to SF since I have payed $250 to see that game in Dec!)

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                      • #12
                        Hey Max,

                        I wasn't trying to say that we will fall into the same abyss as the Giants, I am just saying when you look at the win loss columns, there isn't one for close or moral victories. You either win or lose or even quite possibly tie.

                        I predicted 12-4 out of the gate, I think that was an aggressive guess on the loss column. 14-2 is doable, as long as we "sneak" past the Panthers. lol

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                        • #13
                          The Panthers were a royal pain in our butts last year.Those two divisional losses really came back to haunt us.This year I dont think we will take them lightly,but that field in Carolina is a mess.My only worry against the Panthers is Marshalls knee when we play in Carolina.The Rams have the potential to win the rest of their games if they can avoid the turnovers and penalties.13-3 sounds good to me though!


                          GO RAMS!STAY FOCUSED!WIN!
                          Last edited by Aries51; -10-31-2001, 01:10 PM.
                          ST.LOUIS RAMS:THE MOST FRUSTRATING TEAM IN THE NFL!!!

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                          • #14
                            Tx, I see what you're saying now. That loss is gonna hurt all weekend.

                            When we win the superbowl we'll all spend the off season writing about how great it woul have been to also have gone undefeated! LOL

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                            • #15
                              Max,

                              I'll be at the whiner game also. Section 4something. I think I am at the top but I don't care. Let's meet up, I'll buy you a beer. My tix cost face value. he he

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                              • djccon
                                Now That I've Cooled Off...
                                by djccon
                                The results of the game with the 'Aints are inexcusable and unacceptable. That means I am inconsolable. There cannot be any consolation from this game, nor do I see any positives coming from it. However, here are some observations that I have come away with now that I've had some time to cool off and think objectively:

                                1) I am FED UP with hearing regularly about the "ball maintenance" drills these guys run every DAY in practice, only to watch them cough it up week after week. Obviously it isn't working - so, Mr. Martz, FIND SOMETHING THAT DOES!

                                2) I never cared for Bobby April when he was in Pittsburgh. I liked him less in Atlanta, even less in New Orleans, and I am convinced he must have pictures of someone naked with a hooker to be able to stay in the NFL. Who deemed this guy a guru? Every week we can count on opponents starting at least 2 possessions outside their own 35 after kickoffs. You can look it up.

                                3) Was it just me, or did Canidate seem totally exhausted by half time? I thought Martz said he planned to rotate backs a little more. I think being tired contributed greatly to his struggles. As tired as he looked, I just KNEW it was only a matter of time before he put it on the carpet.

                                4) The dropped passes are unforgiveable. When you get that much $, catch the dang ball, ESPECIALLY when you're trying to keep control and move the chains.

                                5) 1st and 10 near midfield, up 24-6, and a fumble. The defense holds on 4 straight downs, again near midfield, and an INT. Control the @#$% ball, and put the game away ASAP! Blowing a 24 point lead at HOME is unforgiveable.

                                6) I don't care what those two-toothed, cousin-marrying morons in Louisiana say, all the 'aints proved Sunday is they need 8 turnovers to beat us. Had they gotten only 7, they'd STILL have lost. How does that sit with you 'aint fans - knowing you only got 1 or 2 "takeaways" - you know @#$% well those were "giveaways" (i.e., you didn't TAKE, we GAVE)?

                                7) This game convinced me of one thing - the only team good enough to beat the Rams, is the Rams. There is no consolation in this, neither do I consider it a positive since they were SO @#$% willing to do just that.

                                Out for now. Peace!
                                -10-30-2001, 05:43 PM
                              • RamWraith
                                Martz on the Mike
                                by RamWraith
                                Head Coach Mike Martz
                                Tuesday, September 21, 2004

                                (Opening comments)
                                “Obviously we are disappointed with the game yesterday. I think that they got us on our heels in all three phases. On the road, this team needs to learn to fight back. I think we did that and got the game back to 17-17, then we just did not make a play on the reverse and a couple of other things happened offensively, and we didn’t finish this thing the way you would like to see it. There are some lessons to be learned from this game. We have gone through a lot of things with our players today. There were a lot of mistakes in this game. More mistakes than we would’ve thought. We prepared well, and again, in that environment, we just didn’t see it on the field. We just need to put this one to bed, learn from it, and get ready for the Saints.”

                                (On responding to a loss)
                                “We have been in so many of these games in the last five or six years, that our veterans, Isaac (Bruce), Torry, (Holt), and Marshall (Faulk), know how to respond. What’s happened, has happened. Now you just have to go back and make the corrections. We understand what we need to do this week to get it done, now the process begins.”

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                                “I felt we were in positions to make plays, and didn’t do it. We had some penalties. This was problematic throughout the game. Whether it’s a face mask penalty or a false start, you just can’t have those, particularly in critical times. And we made mistakes at critical times that you just can’t make. When the game is that close, and there is a play there to be made, you just have to make that play. When we needed to make a play, we couldn’t make it. You need to learn from that. There are a lot of things that need to straighten out.

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                                “I think that a young team like this, particularly on defense, where we have a lot of young players, have not had that kind of adversity. When you get down like that, you cannot panic and you just have to stay focused, and know how to respond. You need to teach them how to respond. They need to learn that lesson. On the sideline, it was real good when we were on our way back to tying that game up. We just need to finish it at that point. And again, making plays that are critical in the game, that’s the most critical game of the year right there. At that point you need to step up and make those plays.”

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                                “The only similarity is that it is opening day. We have time to bounce back. We have another game next week. We just have to go back and correct our mistakes and look forward to the best.”

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                                “Yeah, keep us in the game but it is a team thing. It is not a win. I don’t care how good we played. We still lost the game. We had plays in there that we need to get better at. We could have made some turnovers and kept it a little closer.”

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                              • letsgoramz
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                                by letsgoramz
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