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    Now That I've Cooled Off...

    The results of the game with the 'Aints are inexcusable and unacceptable. That means I am inconsolable. There cannot be any consolation from this game, nor do I see any positives coming from it. However, here are some observations that I have come away with now that I've had some time to cool off and think objectively:

    1) I am FED UP with hearing regularly about the "ball maintenance" drills these guys run every DAY in practice, only to watch them cough it up week after week. Obviously it isn't working - so, Mr. Martz, FIND SOMETHING THAT DOES!

    2) I never cared for Bobby April when he was in Pittsburgh. I liked him less in Atlanta, even less in New Orleans, and I am convinced he must have pictures of someone naked with a hooker to be able to stay in the NFL. Who deemed this guy a guru? Every week we can count on opponents starting at least 2 possessions outside their own 35 after kickoffs. You can look it up.

    3) Was it just me, or did Canidate seem totally exhausted by half time? I thought Martz said he planned to rotate backs a little more. I think being tired contributed greatly to his struggles. As tired as he looked, I just KNEW it was only a matter of time before he put it on the carpet.

    4) The dropped passes are unforgiveable. When you get that much $, catch the dang ball, ESPECIALLY when you're trying to keep control and move the chains.

    5) 1st and 10 near midfield, up 24-6, and a fumble. The defense holds on 4 straight downs, again near midfield, and an INT. Control the @#$% ball, and put the game away ASAP! Blowing a 24 point lead at HOME is unforgiveable.

    6) I don't care what those two-toothed, cousin-marrying morons in Louisiana say, all the 'aints proved Sunday is they need 8 turnovers to beat us. Had they gotten only 7, they'd STILL have lost. How does that sit with you 'aint fans - knowing you only got 1 or 2 "takeaways" - you know @#$% well those were "giveaways" (i.e., you didn't TAKE, we GAVE)?

    7) This game convinced me of one thing - the only team good enough to beat the Rams, is the Rams. There is no consolation in this, neither do I consider it a positive since they were SO @#$% willing to do just that.

    Out for now. Peace!
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      Hey djccon,

      First of all, love your enthusiasm. We as Rams fans have to be rabid when it is time to be. However, we tend to be spoiled lately, so don't be so harsh as to the inexcusable and unacceptable behavior of the Rams in the second half of this game. If they are going to have a brain fart, better now than later. Every team we have played so far this year (except for maybe the Dolphins) have given us their best shot. That was the best game the Saints have played all year. When we went up 24-6, you could sense it that we were becoming lazy in our offensive effort. I have never played the game, but I am sure it is tough to stay at the "MaxQ" level every game. We just got beat. Ok. Guess what? We are still 6-1. Still in first in the division, and still have home field advantage capabilities for the playoffs. This loss was coming, and more will come I am sure. However, playoffs are around the corner. Get ready for real this time. Don't back in on a 54 yrd Bears FG.

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        • #3
          great post djccon

          Excellent observations, thanks djccon!

          As fan(atic)s we all love Martz, but it is definitely okay to question what's going on, too. Agreed that the only team that can beat the Rams is the Rams, and it's because they lack discipline.

          Stupid penalties, not taking care of the ball well enough & bad special teams is a direct reflection on the coaching. Your comment re Bobby April was outstanding! He's proven himself overrated thus far. The only thing positive I've seen resulting from April's hiring is that Hakim isn't coughing up punts (although I saw Hakim in the Saints game looking at the coverage instead of the ball again during a fair catch, so I tend to think we've actually been lucky in this department). The kickoff coverage is ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC. Might as well do an onsides kick every friggin' time.

          The Rams' great talent has an element of a trade-off in that along with that talent is some lack of discipline. But Martz shouldn't be cavalier about it. It would be a waste of all that great talent if our lack of discipline keeps us from another Super Bowl, and he should be preaching that to the guys.

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            • #4
              Peace...

              Yes, peace Djccon. You've made good and true observations.

              Your frustration is justified and well understood (honest). But I suspect the St. Louis Rams will soon change all that; they WILL get their act together yet! We're with you, hang in there! And...
              GO RAMS!!! ;)

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                • #5
                  Stayed away from the forum a couple of days to deal with my frustrations. You helped me revent them, djccon, thankyou. I feel better. Can we all put this one behind us and look forward to a Super Bowl run? I am.

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                    • #6
                      excellent observations djccon, but we're not even half way yet, give it a couple weeks:mask:

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                        • jdpbmo
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                          Well, where to begin. First, Martz didn't commit the 8 turnovers. Second, he didn't jump offsides with 2 minutes to play to seal the doom. How can a team be so utterly, utterly amazing in one half and look like the bad news bears in football gear the next? And we were stupid enough to have the false illusions of going undefeated, 19-0. I don't mean to speak for others, but it popped into my head a time or two. What was Warner doing today? Did he forget who he was supposed to throw to? And then when he was on target the receivers dropped the ball. And when he was on target and the receivers caught it, they soon fumbled it. I would much rather lose a game like we played against NYG than lose like we did today. As bad as they played, they would have won the game. There is no doubt in my mind that we were going to drive the field and either score a game-winning touchdown or at least a field goal to tie it up and send it to overtime where we would win.....if they just don't jump offsides. I would fine McCleon $1 million dollars...not for the mistake, but for being stupid. If he stays on side, NO kicks the field goal and we get the ball back for the game winning score...no doubt about it. It's a shame we have a game like this. NO deserves the credit for their comback and the Rams deserve exactly what they got-a loss. Martz can only call the plays, he can't throw it, catch it, hold onto it, or tackle. over and out jd
                          -10-28-2001, 05:14 PM
                        • StRams
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                          by StRams
                          Ok, heres my take on the loss.

                          First and foremost...I hated it...it made me sick, especially since we were about 10 yards from tying it up at least.

                          Should we ever have been in that position..NO. But alas we were.

                          Ok heres my reasons, excuses, rationale...ect.

                          1. OVER CONFIDENCE: On the road first game, against a division rival. You can look at this both ways, but I do believe that both teams were up for this game..however, I think its a bit easier to believe that We (the Rams) were a bit over-confident coming in that this should be a win. The 9ers had something to prove...A bit of over achieving perhaps..and a bit of underestimating on our part.

                          2. PREPERATION: The 9ers had all sorts of tape to watch on us...basically other then jackson, we havnt changed our stripes year after year..same ole Rams...hard to prepare for, but at least San Fran new what to expect.

                          We on the other hand had nothing to prepare for. 1st games of the season are hard like that, becuase you dont know what to expect..Niners are basically a different team then last year..new Def...new personel...I think we were at a major disadvantage in that regard.

                          3. 3-4 DEFENSE:..This mixed in with the 4-3 at times to keep us off balance stymied(sp) us, and always has...Martz needs to play call better against this...but again (see above) hard to prepare when you dont really know what your opponent is capable of.

                          4. SPECIAL TEAMS: Dont know what to say other then...they are poor poor poor. Take away that punt return, and we win..or at the very least its a different ball game.

                          Im sure there are other reasons, I dont think any team in the NFL is as bad, or as good as everyone thinks...Circumstances and various other factors combine to equal wins and losses every week. Hopefully this is a wakeup call...we will adjust , we will be better prepared for the Cards...and we will go on to have a good season.

                          There were as many +'s as -'s yesterday, and we can hopefully build on those...and work to remedy the bad.

                          Common guys, as much as we hate to admit it..Its the 9ers on the road, 1st game...To me it had all the makings of an upset. How many times in the past have we snuck up on the 9ers when we sucked...maybe nmot wins, but gave them hard games.

                          I'm going to take this one with a grain of salt...not worried (yet).

                          GO RAMS!
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                          Looking at last years games, either team could have won or lost both games. In Seattle, had the Rams not been called for defensive holding on that last drive, who knows if the Hawks would have scored to win. In St. Louis, if that ref didn't take Bobby E out on that play, who knows if he wouldn't have scored. I hate it when refs decide the outcome by the way...both games had defining plays defined by the stripes.

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                          Offensively, you guys are still very tough. You can never discount your playmakers on any play. While I sometimes question the split-second decisions Bulger makes, he still has the skills and the smarts to hurt any defense. Our D needs to play fast, as fast as they did against the Saints and SF. The D line can't give Bulger any time, they need to harass him all day. They have the ability to do so, but while your O line is not what it was, they are still good enough to make this task difficult. We need Simmons to shadow Faulk in everything he does, we can't let you get anything going on the ground. Another concern is the LB's ability to cover your TE's, this could be pivotal. There will be a give and take in regards to the WR - DB match ups, I think we see big plays by both sides.

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                          -10-23-2001, 06:55 AM
                        • Nick
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                          by Nick
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                          BY JEFF GORDON
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                          Rams coach Mike Martz still expects big things from his football team.

                          But after that 34-17 loss in Atlanta, Martz said there will be plenty of work to do at Rams Park.

                          "We have some things to clean up," Martz said. "That stuff doesn't happen overnight. But we're going to end up being a real good team.

                          "But we have to fix some things, no question about it."

                          Here are some other highlights of his Q & A session with reporters:


                          On what went wrong in Atlanta:

                          "They got us on our heels on all three phases of the game, and on the road, this team needs to learn to fight back. I thought that we did that, getting the game back to a 17-17 position. Then we did not make a play on a reverse and a couple of other things happened offensively. We did not finish this thing the way you would like to see us do it. There are some lessons to be learned from this.

                          "There were a lot of mistakes in this game, more mistakes than we would have thought. I think our players did prepare well. Again, in that environment, we just didn't see it on the field.

                          "This is one of the few times in my career that we practiced very well and did not play well. A lot of it has to do with getting down early and not responding well as a football team."

                          "Coming out of our own end zone, we have a penalty on a kickoff return that's unnecessary. We get into a little bit of a panic offensively, you know, and put ourselves in a hole.

                          "A young team like this, particularly on defense, a lot of the young players have not had that kind of adversity. When you get down like that, you cannot panic . . . you just have to stay focused, know how to respond. You teach them to respond. That's where we are with this.

                          "What's happened has happened. Now you have to go back and make the corrections. We understand what we need to do this week to get it done. Now the process begins."


                          On why the game went south:

                          "We were in position to make a play and didn't do it. We had some penalties . . . this was problematic throughout the game, whether it was a facemask penalty or false start or all those things. We just can't have those, particularly at critical times. We made mistakes at critical times that you just can't make.

                          "When the game is that close and there is a play that's there to be made, you have to make that play. In those three phases of the game, when we had to make a play, we couldn't. They need to learn from that. There are a lot of things that need to be straightened out."


                          On the struggles against the run:

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                          -09-20-2004, 08:19 PM
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