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  • Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

    By Brian Burwell / PD

    Coach Mike Martz says Faulk's sore knees need some rest. I asked Faulk how much rest he thinks he'll take. 'That depends on what you want to do,' he said, speaking generally, as if he were talking about someone else. 'If this is your last season, then what you do is rush back, deal with the pain and whatever happens happens and you retire at the end of the season. But if you've decided that you want to play at least one more year, and you're comfortable and accept a specific limited role, than you play it smart. You take your time, get healthy and come back when it's feeling right.'

    Faulk sounded like a man who was more interested in returning for one more scaled-back run next season. He also sounded quite comfortable with this changing of the guard.

    As we talked, Faulk was nearly trampled as the media moved in to circle and interview quarterback Chris Chandler. Faulk slipped on his black leather jacket, pulled his wool knit cap down snuggly over his head, flipped a backpack over his shoulder and nimbly tried to get out of the way.

    As he attempted to make a quick getaway, a few more reporters converged on him.

    'Can we ask you a few questions, Marshall?' someone asked.

    'Awww, nah,' he whispered, feigning modesty. 'Why do you want to talk to me?'

    Faulk is not quite ready to say goodbye to his athletic life just yet. But he is perceptive enough to know that this wasn't his moment. This was not his time. Faulk could see that big fellow over there on the other side of the room with the flowing dreadlocks and youthful legs was finishing up his postgame radio interview. Faulk knew Jackson was about to march back to his locker stall.

    Faulk knows a thing or two about the paradox of the past and the future never occupying the same space. So the living legend nearing the end of his 11-year Hall of Fame run slipped quietly out the back locker-room door. A few moments later, the future - young Mr. Jackson - slipped seamlessly into his space.

  • #2
    Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

    Very interesting. What's going to make this "controversy" much different than what happened with Warner and Bulger is that both Faulk and Jackson can get touches in a single game. Heck, they can be on the field at the same time. Whereas with the quarterbacks you had to make a decision on one guy or the other, the running backs can be interchanged as needed.

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    • #3
      Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

      Faulk sounded like a man who was more interested in returning for one more scaled-back run next season. He also sounded quite comfortable with this changing of the guard
      Hopefully, this realization will manifest itself as a mutually agreed-upon re-worked contract.
      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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      • #4
        Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

        It's hard to get a read here. If Marshall is really ready to accept a limited role, I'm all for it, but it sounds like he's not exactly thrilled by the situation. At this point, there is no way of really knowing what's going on or what he is actually thinking. Marshall Faulk is one of the most intelligent players in NFL history and he alone knows what he can or can't do. My hope is that everyone involved is on the same page and this situation plays out in a positive way.

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        • #5
          Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

          Originally posted by HUbison
          Hopefully, this realization will manifest itself as a mutually agreed-upon re-worked contract.
          I couldn't possibly agree more. Well said.

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          • #6
            Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

            Faulk is a smart guy, a true student of the game in all it's aspects. I hope the FO can see the potential of keeping Faulk around and running both Faulk and Jackson. It could make the running game very hard to defend against IF the Rams continue to use the running game.

            It is hard to watch as a legend of a player has to deal with the decline that comes from years of physical wear and tear on a body. I am certain, Faulk will remain a class act and hopefully the FO can return the favor.

            I can still remember being awed by Faulk's talent when he was with the Colts. He was amazing.
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            • #7
              Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

              HUbison is 100% correct, as usual. Bottom line, faulk in a limited role is perfect IF the money is mutually acceptable, which means about a $5 million pay cut (he is due about $8 million next year i believe). If someone has accurate faullk salary numbers for next year, please post it. my info on this is a bit dated and i am doing it from memory.

              general counsel

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              • #8
                Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                I don't know how his bonus applies, but this is what NFLPA.org shows for his salary...

                2002 650000.00
                2003 655000.00
                2004 4000000.00
                2005 5750000.00
                2006 5750000.00
                2007 6000000.00
                2008 7500000.00

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                • #9
                  Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                  I'm not trying to be real negative here,but this was not a good rush Defense we played here fellow Ram fans! Lets see how SJ does against a good D.
                  I cant believe that most of you guys are wanting to start SJ over MF!
                  Give Marshall a line that will block and there is know way in he** that SJ is a better back PERIOD! Ok, Marshall may have lost a step but,there's no way and i do mean no way that SJ could no the game any better than Marshall, i'm quite sure there may not be any back in the NFL that is as smart of a player as our #28!
                  Marshall still has plenty of football left in the tank! We just need to learn how to open up some holes for our boys! SJ had holes that Tony Saragusa could have run through!
                  I cant believe that everyones so quick to blame MF on our running game! Anyone that knows football at all should easily see that our problem on running the ball is our Headcoaches play calling (passing is his forte') along with the line play. Adam T has not played well nor Orlando ,heck the run offense sux. I always see at least one of D-lineman penetrating our line of scrimmage!
                  For those of you that Tivo the games (record them) go back and watch the game films! Maybe Martz passes so much that our line has forgotten how to run block? Most people forget that Marshall helped carry this team on his back at times to get several key wins! How do you get rid of a player that is probably more knowledgable about the game that most headcoaches!!!!!!!!!!!
                  I'll take MF on my team any time!!!! Steven J is our future but, our future is not now! I'd bet that there are about 29 teams at least that would snatch up Marshall in a second!
                  I never see quit in # 28 do you? Nough said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  Marshall if you read these posts i for 1, is still a Marshall Faulk fan so don't give in to this crap! Show threm who still wears the cape!
                  Other defenses are keying on him so much this year its not even funny! I'd bet most DC's in the league prepare for us as follows, shut down Marshall and you'll shut down the RAMS! (ok maybe i'm exagerating a little but,im close)

                  Besides Marshall!, most of these guys that want the Rams to make a change have never even put on a football uniform!
                  Line play is the most crucial of all in football! NO potection no run no qb to take you to the promise land! Ask MB and KW and any qb that gets sacked as much as our qb's have in the last 3 or 4 years!
                  Any one that disagree with this please feel free to name a qb that has been able to last the season and go and win a superbowl!
                  For the D-line no pressure, no help from the lb's or the DB's they are the heart and sole of a team! If you dont have line play you will never win it all! and that means on both sides of the ball!
                  Last edited by ; -12-06-2004, 09:31 PM. Reason: messed up

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                  • #10
                    Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                    Originally posted by talkstoangels61
                    How do you get rid of a player that is probably more knowledgable about the game that most headcoaches!!!!!!!!!!! I'll take MF on my team any time!!!! Steven J is our future but, our future is not now! I'd bet that there are about 29 teams at least that would snatch up Marshall in a second!
                    Who in this thread said we should get rid of Faulk? I must have missed that post.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                      Not in this post Nic, Your missing the point! Go reread all the post about either MF or SJ and you'll see that alot of you are wanting MF to step aside and letSJ take the reigns!..............oh by the way nic, are you ever wrong?
                      It seems to me that just about every thing posted on this board,That you do not agree with ! You always have a rebuttal. Basically it seems to me that if you dont agree with it that it must be wrong!
                      We have our opinions as fans as you do,but not many of us tend to take it to extreme as some people do! I guess what i'm trying to say is lighten up on some of your replies. We are all Ram fans here! and some of us on here have been through the pain of the 80's and 90's so when it comes time to vent our frustrations here, we dont like to have someone always to have something to say something about our thoughts is all! ( We are just venting most of the time)
                      I try to get my opinion out there and that is all! You dont see me trying to belittle everyone elses opinions! I'm glad that you are on here with us and truley glad that you are a Diehard Ram fan so i hope you dont take this as an insult,because its not what i've intended!............just try to realize that there are fans that are not going to agree with you or i is all!.........

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                      • #12
                        Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                        Though I love Jackson he has one whole hell of a lot of playing to do before he can even think about filling Marshall Faulks shoes. So Marshall I think I speak for most when I say. Thank you Marshall for being a winner in every sense of the word. From your class on and off the field to your uncanny ability to take over games when it really counts. You and Kurt together were apart of the greatest offense this league has ever seen and you will always be remembered with the highest regard and in the same class of person as Warner. If you play on then I am 100% behind you. If you retire then I am 100% behind you. If you stayed on as a coach for the Rams spreading your knowledge of the game then I'll marry you. Well maybe not marry you but I sure would appreciate it. They talk about rice being the greatest player ever however you sir put your head in the grinder more times in one season then Rice did in his career so the way I see it is, you sir yes you Mr Faulk are not only the greatest back all around player the rams have ever seen but you are the greatest all around player this game has ever seen. Thank you for serving us rams fans.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                          Originally posted by talkstoangels61
                          oh by the way nic, are you ever wrong? It seems to me that just about every thing posted on this board,That you do not agree with ! You always have a rebuttal. Basically it seems to me that if you dont agree with it that it must be wrong!
                          I'm wrong a lot of the time, and I agree with a lot of things posted. Just earlier in this thread, I agreed with something HUbison said. If you think I disagree with just about everything posted on the board, I would suggest reading more of my posts. To address this though, it sounded like you were suggesting the people who have replied to this thread have said we should cut Faulk, which I don't think has been the case. If you were referring to posters in general over multiple threads, then obviously you're correct.

                          You continue to take my responses to you as my belitting you and your opinion. That's not the case at all. If I see something I want to respond to, good or bad, I'll respond to it with my opinion. There's no hostility intended, although I will admit it is frustrating to see you continue to imply that those of us who never actually played organized football somehow aren't as knowledgable as those posters who have, then tell me how I'm the one who thinks he's never wrong.

                          Regardless, I'm confused as to what you want me to do. It seems as if you want me just to not respond to you at all, since every response I make is either belitting you or being too extreme of a poster, in your opinion. All I can say is that the point of a message board is to take part in discussions, and that's what I do. If you'd rather I not respond to your posts, I can certainly do that. Just let me know.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                            Originally posted by RamTime
                            Though I love Jackson he has one whole hell of a lot of playing to do before he can even think about filling Marshall Faulks shoes. So Marshall I think I speak for most when I say. Thank you Marshall for being a winner in every sense of the word. From your class on and off the field to your uncanny ability to take over games when it really counts. You and Kurt together were apart of the greatest offense this league has ever seen and you will always be remembered with the highest regard and in the same class of person as Warner. If you play on then I am 100% behind you. If you retire then I am 100% behind you. If you stayed on as a coach for the Rams spreading your knowledge of the game then I'll marry you. Well maybe not marry you but I sure would appreciate it. They talk about rice being the greatest player ever however you sir put your head in the grinder more times in one season then Rice did in his career so the way I see it is, you sir yes you Mr Faulk are not only the greatest back all around player the rams have ever seen but you are the greatest all around player this game has ever seen. Thank you for serving us rams fans.
                            Great post, RT. Very well said.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Burwell talks about Faulk and retirement

                              Nic, i dont think that you are belittleing me in no way! I'm just an onlooker that read all post and replies. And maybe i could be reading you wrong when reading your rebuttals but, it just is my opinion that sometimes you have to get in the last word is all! Thats it,no harm no foul! and as far as you thinkjing that i'm saying that i'm right about things just because i've played the game alot in my life time isn't correct!
                              All that i'm trying to say is you have to have played the game to truly understand it from a player's point of veiw. I've played the game both as a mlb,ss,qb,fb,and rb so i've had the pleasure of not having holes to run through and by getting the **** knocked out of you from being hit blindside! Let me tell you that it is no fun!...lol......Also have been on the Defensive side of the ball where we blitzed and returned the favor! Let me tell you that when we werent able to put heat on the opposing qb they usually lit us up!
                              We as a team took 2nd in our highschool state playoff's and many of us went on to play college ball! It helps me understand the game IMPO a little more than say someone who has never straapped on the pads and put on a helmet! It's no disrespect at all to any of you that hasnt. Its just that i feel that i might have an edge on the game since playing it for sometime!
                              Oh Might i add we went in a little over confident in that state game and we lost! 14-6 IMPO we should have won it! Sure wished i could do it all over again!.............and i might add re: above,i'm not saying that im a know it all and by no means do i know everything about the game,i donnot....lol.....i just think that i have somewhat of a different opinion on how our HC and team is playing as a whole..............And by all means keep giving your opinion it helps me add too my posts.........lol..........take care!

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                              • RamDez
                                Faulk Leads Young RBs
                                by RamDez
                                Faulk Leads Young RBs
                                Thursday, August 19, 2004


                                By Nick Wagoner
                                Staff Writer


                                Marshall Faulk has never been a vocal guy. But, then, he has never had to be. One look at his numbers or any of his game film, and even the casual observer can see that everything he does on the field speaks for itself.

                                What do the numbers say? Well, aside from the staggering size of most of them, they don’t simply speak, but scream one thing: Hall of Fame. It’s not debatable whether Faulk is one of the game’s all-time greats; he has racked up 11,213 rushing yards, 6,274 receiving yards and 131 total touchdowns.

                                With the shrill pitch those numbers express, it might be easy for Faulk to get complacent and continue the trend. Complacency, though, has never been in Faulk’s dictionary and it isn’t being added this season. The former league MVP and Pro Bowler has accomplished most everything a player can accomplish in the NFL.

                                The bad news for the rest of the league is that Faulk appears healthy for the first time in awhile. Coach Mike Martz said he sometimes has to hold back his enthusiasm about Faulk. “He looks like the Marshall of old out here,” Martz said. "He feels so good and when he’s like that we try not to put a damper on it, but we also just want him to be cautious.”

                                A nagging knee injury and a hand injury have caused Faulk to miss time in recent years, but he continues to play, not because he wants to prove his doubters wrong, but solely because he loves the game.

                                Faulk has never asked himself what more he can accomplish, but he has a few ideas of what he wants to improve on. Faulk is one of the Rams’ captains this season. Normally, Faulk leads by example and it isn’t hard for him because of his success. Now, with three talented young backs angling to be his heir apparent, Faulk is attempting to take a more vocal role, something he has never done. “When you get in the heat of the battle, there are certain things that only another player can help you with,” Faulk said. “If I do something that’s kind of different, I want them to know what my thoughts were and what I was thinking and try to get them on the same page. “I’m just trying to find a way to become a better leader.”

                                While Faulk has spent most of his training camp on the sidelines, ensuring his health for the regular season, he has also provided an ear for his younger counterparts to turn to for advice. Faulk’s wisdom is readily available to Lamar Gordon, Arlen Harris and rookie Steven Jackson. With Faulk and running backs coach Wilbert Montgomery — a former Pro Bowl running back for the Philadelphia Eagles — providing the knowledge, the trio of backups has two accomplished runners leading the way.

                                Jackson could have easily come to training camp with ideas of displacing Faulk. After all, Jackson was the first running back taken in April’s Draft and there was rampant speculation...
                                -08-19-2004, 02:46 PM
                              • Nick
                                More from Hadley (Re: Faulk)
                                by Nick
                                Friday, July 9

                                UPDATES ON MARSHALL FAULK, BRETT HULL AND CARDS
                                04:11:37 CDT

                                FOLLOW UP... FAULK, CONROY, HULL, & CARDS


                                Updating storylines I discussed on KTRS this week.


                                MARSHALL FAULK: My sources are indicating that Marshall Faulk remains an enigma for the 2004 season with training camp on the horizon.

                                The level of anxiety differs with sources; however, the common dominator has each individual, unwilling to guarantee Faulk is ready for action.

                                As one source said, "There are reasons to believe that Faulk won't play this season but I expect to see him run through tunnel at The Ed (Edward Jones Dome) on the 12th (opening day, 9/12/04)."

                                Faulk has indicated to mutual acquaintances that he remains concerned whether his knee will be 100% for training camp and there is a chance that he will not play in 2004.

                                "I won't mislead you, there is an incertitude permeating through the front office into the coaches offices about the situation. You will not get anybody to confirm on the record, unless they have a position waiting with another organization. Write it if you want but he ready for the wrath of Coach (Mike Martz) and number 28 (Marshall Faulk)," were the words of another source.

                                Based on various conversations the consensus is that Faulk will play in 2004 however his role will be lessened (likely more than advertised).

                                A third source said, "I would say it's fair to question whether Marshall will be ready but never underestimate his toughness, mentally, or physically. I will say this; we need Steve Jackson and Lamar Gordon to be ready. Gordon is the real question. I have the utmost confidence that Jackson can fill the bill but if Marshall can't go, Gordon must elevate his game supporting Jackson for this offense to operate properly.

                                Faulk has managed, in the past, to rise to the elite level after rehabbing injuries, his badge of competitiveness is worn well, and there is ample reason to believe he can do it again.

                                Please read this carefully, I'm not communicating that Faulk won't play this season. I'm simply reporting that it's a possibility. Additionally, I'm communicating, if he does play his role could be even more limited than discussed in most circles. The news value is simple... Faulk donning the Rams uniform isn't "a given."

                                Let me repeat, so that the information isn't misrepresented, mangled or altered by those on forum boards or airwaves... I'm not writing the final chapter of Faulk's career. I'm simply conveying the fact Faulk isn't near 100% nor ready to rock 'n roll.

                                Simply stated, the pulse of uncertainty regarding Faulk's future is beating rapidly (at Rams Park). There is a chance he might not play; best-case scenario passed along by sources has his role more...
                                -07-10-2004, 03:13 AM
                              • RamWraith
                                Faulk's Finest Hour
                                by RamWraith
                                Wednesday, December 19, 2007

                                By Nick Wagoner
                                Senior Writer

                                Stuck in a dire situation, Marshall Faulk found himself in a form of football purgatory in 1998. After five years in Indianapolis, Faulk had reached his breaking point.

                                All of the struggles, all of the mistakes and most of all, all of the losses had finally caused Faulk to go to management and seek something better. Faulk didn’t ask much; it wasn’t about the money. He could have had plenty of that from the Colts.

                                What Faulk wanted was a chance to win. So when he received word on April 15, 1999, that he was being sent to the Rams for a second and fifth round selection in the upcoming NFL Draft, Faulk was less than thrilled.

                                “My thoughts when I first came to St. Louis weren’t good,” Faulk said. “I felt like I was in a bad situation and the situation in St. Louis wasn’t any better.”

                                Considering that in his five seasons in the league, the Rams had won 26 games or six less than the Colts in that same time frame. Of course, Indianapolis had gone 3-13 the two previous seasons and appeared headed nowhere.

                                But that didn’t mean Faulk was thrilled with his new home in St. Louis. As Faulk watches his No. 28 jersey raised to the rafters Thursday night, never to be worn by a Ram again, it’s hard not to imagine how he went from unhappy all-star to man of honor.

                                A MINI REVELATION

                                Entering the 1999 offseason, the Rams were faced with the task of overhauling a boring offense that scored so little that the scorekeeper at the Edward Jones Dome felt like the Maytag repairman.

                                To that end, the Rams aggressively pursued help on the line and at the skill positions. They signed Trent Green to play quarterback and Adam Timmerman at guard. They drafted young receiver Torry Holt out of North Carolina State and hired a young offensive-minded coordinator in the form of Mike Martz.

                                While those moves were a step in the right direction, none had the cache that would really draw the attention of landing a Pro Bowl running back such as Faulk. In the days leading to the draft, the Rams finally settled on a deal and Faulk became a Ram.

                                With Faulk in the fold, it appeared the Rams had the foundation for an explosive offensive but it remained to be seen how the pieces would come together. Of course, it would have been impossible for those pieces to fit if Faulk never entered the fray.

                                Faulk got to St. Louis without a new contract in hand and wasn’t even sure he wanted to be here. After careful consideration, Faulk decided to give the Rams a shot before he made a decision.

                                “I took my time and I thought about it and I think the best thing that I did was I decided to go to minicamp and I got a chance to be around the likes of Isaac Bruce, Trent Green, etc,” Faulk said. “I got an opportunity to see that this team was...
                                -12-19-2007, 04:44 PM
                              • RamWraith
                                Faulk Prepares for Life After Football
                                by RamWraith
                                Wednesday, August 16, 2006

                                By Nick Wagoner

                                Senior Writer



                                Marshall Faulk began preparing for life after the NFL a long time ago. Now, he is beginning the adjustment of what life away from the league will be like.



                                Faulk will make his debut on NFL Network this evening at 7 on the network’s signature show “NFL Total Access.” Faulk will serve as an analyst on the show this season as he sits out the year following offseason knee surgery.



                                “I had come to grips with that a long time ago,” Faulk said Wednesday. “I gave myself five years then I gave myself 10 years and I ended up playing 12. I have been fortunate. The position I have played is a heavy impact position. You just can’t expect a long life span out of it. There is a lot of luck that is involved. I have had a lot of it. There is a little bit of unfortunate luck right now that I can’t come back so let it be. I am happy with it.”



                                While Faulk has stopped short of declaring his NFL career over, he does have another year after this on his contract, it certainly appears that it’s a realistic possibility that he has played his final NFL game. Still, Faulk said he is leaving the door open for a return to the Rams next season.



                                “The knee is coming along slowly,” Faulk said. “I am rehabbing right now. I’m just taking it easy. That’s all.

                                I’m taking it year to year. I am working out. I am rehabbing. That’s it. If it feels good enough to where I can go out there and feel comfortable with what I can do then fine. If not, I’m fine.”



                                Faulk had reconstructive knee surgery on July 28 in Los Angeles , putting to rest any hopes of his playing this season. The Rams announced on July 21 that Faulk will be having surgery and wouldn’t play this year.



                                According to Faulk, though, that surgery might not have gone as well as hoped and there could be more surgery in his future.



                                At 33, Faulk knows that he has to start thinking about more than playing football again. The move to the NFL Network was the first step, but it could also determine how many more knee operations a running back with over 20,000 total yards of tread on his tires can handle.



                                “I’m going to take the next two to three months and rehab this thing and see how it goes,” Faulk said. “If this procedure doesn’t (make it) better and what I had done doesn’t get (the knee) better, then obviously…and not just for football but for life. I’ll have to have something else done.”



                                As speculation ran rampant in the offseason about Faulk’s future, he said he didn’t let any outside sources bother him. He contends that he didn’t make up his mind about his NFL future until a few days before the announcement by the...
                                -08-16-2006, 07:24 PM
                              • Nick
                                Prisco: Faulk out of shape and unwanted?
                                by Nick
                                From Pete Prisco


                                Why is Marshall Faulk still with the Rams? That's an interesting question when you consider he hasn't taken part in the team's offseason program and word is he's once again a little pudgy. OK, chunky is more like it. Faulk was a pet of previous coach Mike Martz, which is why he was allowed to get away with not being in the best shape. The joke was that Faulk used to play golf to get into shape in the offseason. New coach Scott Linehan has made it clear that Steven Jackson will be the team's top running back. Word is some coaches and others in the organization wouldn't mind too much of Faulk simply decided to retire. But after all he has done for the organization, how can it simply just let him go? That could be a public relations disaster for the new staff. Still, don't expect Faulk to see much action. His time has come and gone in St. Louis. You would think he'd realize that and do something about it, especially from a conditioning standpoint. There are a lot of backs who take an active role in getting into shape when they get older. Faulk should be doing more of that and less golf if he's truly serious about playing. If the Rams had guts, they'd let him walk. Now that Martz is out the door, there's no reason not to do so.
                                -06-01-2006, 09:32 PM
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