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  • Smoker -- not Martin -- will back up Chandler

    By Bill Coats
    Of the Post-Dispatch
    Friday, Dec. 10 2004

    Jeff Smoker will be the Rams’ backup quarterback Sunday at Carolina. And that’s
    no joke.

    “Usually I’m on the sideline writing on the clipboard and maybe joking around
    here and there” during games, said Smoker, a rookie from Michigan State. “But I’
    ve got to stay into the game now and be prepared to go in at any time.”

    Smoker, a sixth-round draft choice, was the No. 3 quarterback for the team’s
    first 11 games. His role in practice was as the scout-team QB.

    But now, after the shoulder bruise that will keep starter Marc Bulger out for
    at least Sunday’s game and put 39-year-old Chris Chandler in the lineup, Smoker
    is a turned ankle away from seeing his first regular-season action in the NFL.

    “It’s one step closer,” Smoker said. “But hopefully nothing happens to Chris
    and all goes well and I don’t have to get in.”

    Should he get the call, though, Smoker said he believes that he’s ready. “Yeah,
    definitely. I’ve been learning little by little every week,” he said.
    “Obviously I don’t know everything, and I don’t know as much as Marc and
    probably Chris. But I know enough to get in there, be efficient and run the

    Coach Mike Martz wasn’t so sure of that earlier in the week, when he indicated
    that former Ram Jamie Martin -- signed on Monday -- would fill the No. 2 role.
    But Smoker earned the spot with his play in practice.

    “I stuck him in the blitz periods and . . . I was very pleased with how well he
    responded; he did a great job,” Martz said. “He’s been through everything in
    camp and he played for us in the preseason. I think at this point, that’s the
    way we would start and give Jamie some time to get his feet on the ground.”

    Hard-headed Hargrove:

    Unlike most teams, the Panthers don’t form a wedge on kickoff returns. No one
    is happier about that than Rams rookie Anthony Hargrove.

    Hargrove, a defensive end by trade, twice has suffered concussions this year on
    opening kickoffs while trying to bust wedges by hurtling his 6-foot-3,
    269-pound body into the fray. It happened in the season opener against Arizona
    and again last Sunday vs. San Francisco.

    “They tell you, ‘The closer you get, the faster you run,’” Hargrove said. “I
    just try to hit it and take out everybody on one shot.” Taking himself out,
    though, is not part of the plan.

    “When he goes down there and hits them, he’d probably be better leading with
    something other than the top of his head,” Martz said. “He’ll figure that out

    Perhaps sooner rather than later; the most recent concussion shook the
    third-round draft pick from Georgia Tech. “It was way more intense,” Hargrove
    said. “I couldn’t think or anything. That’s why I knew I had to go sit down.”

    And yet he returned to the game. “Yeah, but I don’t remember playing,” he said.
    “But I saw myself on film. I looked all right.”

    When Rams players suffer head injuries, they must pass a neurological exam
    before they’re cleared for the next game. It took two tries, but Hargrove
    passed and will suit up Sunday. He said he doesn’t plan to alter his aggressive

    “I’m not worried at all; some of that comes with the job, really,” he said. “I’
    m just not going to let it affect the way I play. I’m not going in on Sunday
    thinking, ‘I don’t want to hit anybody because I don’t want to get another

    Torry takes a spin:

    Wide receiver Torry Holt was watching on television Monday night at a Beverly
    Hills restaurant as Dallas rallied to victory in Seattle and shoved the Rams
    back into first placed in the NFC West. “I was going bananas,” Holt said. “I
    know some of the people were looking at me like, ‘What’s going on with this

    Holt was on the West Coast to appear on “Wheel of Fortune” during the
    long-running TV show’s “NFL Week.” He competed in the charity event against
    Pittsburgh wideout Hines Ward and Philadelphia defensive end Jevon Kearse. “We
    had a blast,” Holt said.

    Holt refused to disclose the results. “I’ll just tell everybody to watch; Jan.
    3 is the date that the show airs,” he said. “Tune in and check it out.”

    Asked by inquiring reporters how letter-turner Vanna White, 47, was doing, Holt
    paused and then said: “Vanna’s OK. Vanna, I’m sure in her prime was very
    stunning. And she looks good now, don’t get me wrong . . . no offense, Vanna.”


    Although cornerback DeJuan Groce was listed as questionable on Friday’s injury
    report, he’ll be active Sunday. Groce missed the last two games because of a
    knee injury. . . . Defensive end Tyoka Jackson was back on the field Friday
    after sitting out Thursday’s practice with stomach flu.

  • #2
    Re: Smoker -- not Martin -- will back up Chandler

    Martz on Hargrove on special teams
    “When he goes down there and hits them, he’d probably be better leading with something other than the top of his head,” Martz said. “He’ll figure that out eventually.”
    Hargrove on concusions
    “I’m not worried at all; some of that comes with the job, really,” he said. “I’m just not going to let it affect the way I play. I’m not going in on Sunday thinking, ‘I don’t want to hit anybody because I don’t want to get another headache.’”
    :king: Hargrove is a football player and he isn't afraid of getting hurt, but it will help if he stops using his head so much.

    Ah that Torry, he can't stay away from the spotlight, can he? Try and use some good judgment Torry and keep your clothes on.


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      Since he was cut by the Rams on Sept. 3, quarterback Jeff Smoker had tryouts in Indianapolis, Kansas City, Philadelphia, Miami and Buffalo. But he kept his home in St. Louis.

      "I lived here with my girlfriend. We had an apartment and we had all our stuff here," Smoker explained. "So we figured until something else was shaking, we'd just kind of hang here."

      Prudent decision, as it turned out. On Wednesday, the Rams rehired Smoker, a sixth-round draft pick last year, after starting quarterback Marc Bulger suffered a shoulder injury Monday night that will keep him out of the Rams' home game vs. New Orleans on Sunday, and probably longer.

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      "I just want to kind of get back in the swing of things, get back to throwing the football again, get back with the guys and ... basically, just get back into football," said Smoker, who practiced Thursday at Rams Park. "I miss the competition, I miss the guys and the camaraderie."

      Smoker knows that his time here will be based on the length of Bulger's absence. But he said he's optimistic about finding work elsewhere in 2006.

      "I've been having great workouts," he said. "A lot of the teams said they really liked me and that they really wanted me for next year, that they had their three spots filled this year."

      Smoker said it was difficult to keep his arm in shape. "I haven't had much of a chance to throw," he said. "I don't have anybody to throw to, really."

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      "Oh, I'd break her nose," he said, laughing.

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      "When I first started out, it felt good," he said. "Then as the game went on ... the soreness started to kick in. But I was able to fight through it. I didn't have a whole lot to give late in the fourth quarter."

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      After a season spent watching and learning, Jeff Smoker wants to compete for the Rams' No. 2 quarterback job in 2005.

      "I'm going to give it a shot," Smoker said. "I feel like I learned a lot this year. I'm going to keep trying to improve my skills in the offseason. I'm going to work hard at it, because I don't really like to sit on the bench. This is the first time I had to do it, and I don't really enjoy it. So I'm going to work hard at getting that No. 2 spot if I can."

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      Now that his rookie season's over, Smoker plans to take a couple of weeks off, and then return to St. Louis to work out, study the playbook and begin preparing for next season.

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      FYI, i just read in the post dispatch that smoker has signed a three year contract. terms not disclosed. One of the more tech savy guys can post the article. still no news on hargrove.

      ramming speed to all

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      When Jeff Smoker arrived at the Four Points Sheraton for training camp, he did so knowing that there was going to be plenty of competition at the quarterback position.

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      “I didn’t come in here to sit on the bench and I want to get a chance to play so I’m going to shoot for that backup spot,” Smoker said at the time. “Hopefully nothing happens to Marc, but if something does I can get in there and do the job.”

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