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    Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger
    R.B. FALLSTROM
    Associated Press

    ST. LOUIS - Marc Bulger can't get healthy fast enough for the St. Louis Rams.

    Bulger, who missed Sunday's 20-7 loss to the Panthers with a sprained shoulder, resumed light throwing on Monday, but the team is aiming for him to return to the lineup next week against the Eagles.

    "He's a little sore, but who knows?" Martz said Monday. "We may have him, but I'm not going to count on it."

    That means another week with 39-year-old backup Chris Chandler, whose first start of the season was forgettable: a career-worst six interceptions. Chandler has played for seven teams, and Martz said at times it appeared his quarterback was running another offense.

    At one point in the second half, the frustrated coach showed his lack of trust in Chandler by calling nine straight runs for third-string running back Arlen Harris.

    "He got a little rattled," Martz said. "He's a guy that's been in a lot of systems and had a lot of different coaching, and when you get under pressure like that sometimes you revert back to another system or how you were doing things in the past.

    "He's just devastated."

    The alternatives are not very enticing for the Rams (6-7). The backups are rookie Jeff Smoker, who's still learning the offense, and Jamie Martin, who's not physically ready after being out of the NFL since October 2003 before signing last week.

    So Martz knows better than to beat down Chandler. He blamed himself for not preparing Chandler better, and he blamed poor pass protection for getting Chandler off to a shaky start that became the shakiest of games - he was only one off the franchise record for interceptions.

    "Chris is our starter," Martz said. "I can help him a lot more and we need to help him up front."

    Martz said fill-in right tackle Blaine Saipaia, who made his second career start, was the best of the bunch on an offensive line that features five-time Pro Bowl left tackle Orlando Pace and guard Adam Timmerman (two Pro Bowls).

    "I think he played better than the rest of them and you can draw your own conclusions about the rest of it," Martz said. "I'm embarrassed about it, to be honest with you.

    "We're going to look very hard at this."

    Saipaia did a good job against Julius Peppers. He had the best game of the three reserves playing in high-profile spots against the Panthers. The tailback was third-stringer Harris, who had 19 carries for 62 yards in his first real action of the season because both Steven Jackson and Marshall Faulk were sidelined with bruised knees.

    Faulk, who has missed two games, told Martz he'd like to be available on a limited basis this Sunday at Arizona. But Martz said he'd prefer to hold him out another week.

    Jackson had 50 ccs of fluid drained from his right knee on Sunday and felt much better on Monday.

    "He was on the treadmill today running full speed, and that's encouraging to me," Martz said. "I think he's still pretty sore. Who knows?"

    Despite losing five of seven, the Rams are only one game behind the Seahawks in the NFC West with three games to go, plus they have the tiebreaker. So Martz will push on.

    "I don't know any other way," Martz said. "Fix what's broken and move on, and have a short memory, and not let yourself get beat down emotionally where you can't pick yourself up and accept it, and say it's over and all that garbage that happens to bad teams.

    "You've got to keep fighting and compete and do the best you can."

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    Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

    Well,i hope this time that if Chris continues to struggle that MM will not hesitate to pull him and put in Smoker!..............Maybe MMis trying to get fired?

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    • #3
      Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

      Originally posted by talkstoangels61
      Maybe MMis trying to get fired?
      *scratches head* Yeah, maybe.... :confused:

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      • #4
        Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

        is Martz trying to get Pace to leave after this season? saying Blaine played the best is a slap in the face to Pace. OUCH!!!!!!!!!

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        • #5
          Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

          Maybe it's another one of Martz's motivational tactics.

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          • #6
            Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

            Or maybe he is telling the plain truth, we have no other options ................

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            • #7
              Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

              Maybe it will encourage Pace to play upto his All-Pro status!!!!!!!


              steve :ramlogo:
              "The breakfast Club":helmet:

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              • #8
                Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

                God, I hope Bulger comes back. I'm in the playoffs for my fantasy league. Chandler, who I stupidly took a chance on, almost cost me a shot at the playoffs. Hell, Warner would have got me more points. Bulger, dinged up, against Arizona is a better option than anything on the waiver wire.

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                • #9
                  Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

                  Originally posted by NickSeiler
                  ... Chandler to get another start ...
                  This is one headline I can do without.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

                    "He got a little rattled," Martz said. "He's a guy that's been in a lot of systems and had a lot of different coaching, and when you get under pressure like that sometimes you revert back to another system or how you were doing things in the past.

                    Maybe you should have thought of this before you signed him.

                    "Chris is our starter," Martz said. "I can help him a lot more and we need to help him up front."

                    I pray that he is prepared on Sunday.

                    Faulk, who has missed two games, told Martz he'd like to be available on a limited basis this Sunday at Arizona. But Martz said he'd prefer to hold him out another week.

                    Better than the alterative.

                    Jackson had 50 ccs of fluid drained from his right knee on Sunday and felt much better on Monday.

                    Hope he's ready to play Sunday.

                    Man; If they drop this one I will be one PORF. They already spoiled an otherwise fun Saint Bash. Two losses while in attendance in one season is unacceptable!
                    JUST WIN ONE FOR THE FANS
                    :ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram::ram:

                    "HIT HARD, HIT FAST, AND HIT OFTEN"
                    Adm. William "Bull" Halsey

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                    • #11
                      Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

                      Arizona is terrible against the run, so if Jackson is healthy that should be the key. He was running on a treadmill yesterday, so that’s at least a good sign. Whoever is at QB, Chandler, Smoker, Martin, or an injured Bluger needs to play within himself and simply “not lose the game”. Short high percentage passes and no interceptions. Rely on Jackson and the run!

                      Personally I’d rather see Smoker than Chandler. Historically Chandler has been known for injuries, getting rattled, happy feet, and a strong but inaccurate arm. It appears old age didn’t cure any of this. Smoker can’t be any worse than Chandler!

                      :helmet:

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                      • #12
                        Re: Shaky Chandler to get another start ahead of injured Bulger

                        Originally posted by lakerams
                        is Martz trying to get Pace to leave after this season? saying Blaine played the best is a slap in the face to Pace. OUCH!!!!!!!!!
                        Unless he actually did play better...in which case it's calling a spade a spade.
                        Clannie Nominee for ClanRam's Thickest Poster

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                        • RamWraith
                          Chandler Takes Responsibility & Martz Crticizes Pace
                          by RamWraith
                          Fom SI/CNN

                          ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Marc Bulger tested his shoulder for the second time this week on Wednesday, giving the St. Louis Rams some hope he might be able to return to the lineup.

                          Bulger missed Sunday's loss to the Panthers and his backup, Chris Chandler, had a nightmare game with a career-worst six interceptions. There's urgency for his return with the Rams (6-7) one game back in the NFC West entering this week's game at Arizona.

                          On Wednesday Bulger threw about a dozen passes in an individual drill after also throwing several warmups. He threw at about three-quarter speed and a bit sidearm, but it was enough for Martz to exclaim, citing Bulger's jersey number, "10's back!" after the first pass.

                          Bulger didn't participate in any team drills but the plan is to gradually increase the work load and then make a decision on his availability perhaps on Friday.

                          "I don't know what to tell you because he actually threw the ball much better today than I would have predicted," Martz said after practice. "He feels like he can zip it, but we just asked him to refrain from that."

                          Martz said Bulger, who wasn't made available for comment, had a little trouble on the follow through.

                          "I'd like to have him throw a little bit more each day just to see if he can," Martz said.

                          Martz wasn't as optimistic on Monday, when he said Chandler, 39, would get another start. The Rams had been aiming at Bulger returning next week from an injury he's sustained twice this season.

                          Bulger missed no games the first time around after being hurt in Miami Oct. 24, returning after a bye the following weekend. Martz said Bulger's arm didn't return to normal until a week before he was injured.

                          If Bulger can't go, Chandler will try to shake off his nightmarish day. In 17 seasons, Chandler had never thrown more than four interceptions in a game.

                          Martz attempted to divert some criticism, saying he could have done a better job of preparing Chandler and saying perhaps Chandler -- making his first start of the season -- might have reverted to running an offense from one of his previous six NFL teams. Chandler would have none of that.

                          "It has nothing to do with Mike; it was just my bad day," Chandler said. "He was just trying to be a nice guy. It was just a bad thing on my part."

                          Chandler said it was tough moving on from the game, which wasted a good effort from the Rams' improving defense. St. Louis shut out Carolina in the second half.

                          "I've never had one like that," Chandler said. "So, I'm still trying to sort it out. I'm just going to try as usual from my end to be ready, and get back to good things."

                          A much-improved backfield situation should help whoever's at quarterback. Martz said Marshall...
                          -12-16-2004, 05:52 AM
                        • RamWraith
                          Bulger has a shot at returning for Rams
                          by RamWraith
                          R.B. FALLSTROM

                          Associated Press


                          ST. LOUIS - Marc Bulger tested his shoulder for the second time this week on Wednesday, giving the St. Louis Rams some hope he might be able to return to the lineup.

                          Bulger missed Sunday's loss to the Panthers and his backup, Chris Chandler, had a nightmare game with a career-worst six interceptions. There's urgency for his return with the Rams (6-7) one game back in the NFC West entering this week's game at Arizona.

                          On Wednesday Bulger threw about a dozen passes in an individual drill after also throwing several warmups. He threw at about three-quarter speed and a bit sidearm, but it was enough for Martz to exclaim, citing Bulger's jersey number, "10's back!" after the first pass.

                          Bulger didn't participate in any team drills but the plan is to gradually increase the work load and then make a decision on his availability perhaps on Friday.

                          "I don't know what to tell you because he actually threw the ball much better today than I would have predicted," Martz said after practice. "He feels like he can zip it, but we just asked him to refrain from that."

                          Martz said Bulger, who wasn't made available for comment, had a little trouble on the follow through.

                          "I'd like to have him throw a little bit more each day just to see if he can," Martz said.

                          Martz wasn't as optimistic on Monday, when he said Chandler, 39, would get another start. The Rams had been aiming at Bulger returning next week from an injury he's sustained twice this season.

                          Bulger missed no games the first time around after being hurt in Miami Oct. 24, returning after a bye the following weekend. Martz said Bulger's arm didn't return to normal until a week before he was injured.

                          If Bulger can't go, Chandler will try to shake off his nightmarish day. In 17 seasons, Chandler had never thrown more than four interceptions in a game.

                          Martz attempted to divert some criticism, saying he could have done a better job of preparing Chandler and saying perhaps Chandler - making his first start of the season - might have reverted to running an offense from one of his previous six NFL teams. Chandler would have none of that.

                          "It has nothing to do with Mike; it was just my bad day," Chandler said. "He was just trying to be a nice guy. It was just a bad thing on my part."

                          Chandler said it was tough moving on from the game, which wasted a good effort from the Rams' improving defense. St. Louis shut out Carolina in the second half.

                          "I've never had one like that," Chandler said. "So, I'm still trying to sort it out. I'm just going to try as usual from my end to be ready, and get back to good things."

                          A much-improved backfield situation should help whoever's...
                          -12-16-2004, 05:19 AM
                        • RamWraith
                          If Chandler wins this one, we'll get off his back for good
                          by RamWraith
                          BY JEFF GORDON
                          Post-Dispatch Online Sports Columnist
                          Thursday, Dec. 09 2004

                          Rams coach Mike Martz knew this could happen. He knew he might need a capable
                          quarterback to step in for Marc Bulger at some point during the 2004 season.

                          After electing to move Kurt Warner down the trail, Martz zeroed in on veteran
                          Chris Chandler. Martz knew Chandler, respected his mental and physical
                          attributes and believed he could still play.

                          And here we are. Bulger is sidelined by a shoulder injury and Chandler will
                          lead the Rams into their critical battle at Carolina.

                          Martz believes Chandler will come through. Rams Nation hopes he is right,
                          because this team’s playoff hopes hang in the balance.

                          Mad Mike didn’t mist up when discussing the quarterback change, as Dick Vermeil
                          would have. Rather, Martz got feisty.

                          STLtoday.com readers probably remember that your cyber-correspondent viewed
                          Chandler’s ascension with some dread, given all those miles on Chris’ odometer.
                          After Sunday’s 16-6 “victory” over the San Francisco *****, I expressed some of
                          that dread on this web site.

                          Martz responded with some salvoes of his own during Wednesday’s news conference.

                          “When we signed him, he’s not 500 years old, he’s 38,” Mad Mike said.

                          (Actually, we described him as the “900-year-old Chandler,” but the coach’s
                          point is well taken. Even after his Oct. 12 birthday, our exaggeration is a
                          whopping 861 years.)

                          “It doesn’t matter how old he is, he can play,” Martz continued. “He has
                          terrific legs. He’s in there on the treadmill for 35 minutes on (level) nine. I
                          don’t know if any of you can do that, and I know I can’t.”

                          (Got me there. What’s the word our 1380 ESPN fitness editor used to describe
                          me? “Deconditioned”? That’s a polite euphemism for “lard bottom”. Chris would
                          dust me on the treadmill.)

                          “I think that, and the fact that his arm strength hasn’t been diminished at
                          all,” Martz said, continuing his roll. “He’s still on top of his game, in terms
                          of seeing things and accuracy. All of those things, physically, would lend
                          itself to believe that he still has a lot of football left in him. Otherwise,
                          we would have never signed him to a two-year deal.”

                          Martz’s move appeared prescient during the preseason, when Chandler starred. He
                          completed 29 of 44 passes for 472 yards (fifth-most in exhibition play) and two
                          touchdowns.

                          Chandler threw a pretty touchdown pass to Torry Holt in Sunday’s victory,
                          scraping off some rust to earn the “W” in relief. So Martz isn’t worried about
                          throwing him into such a high-pressure situation Sunday.

                          “He’s been through all of the playoffs,” the coach...
                          -12-10-2004, 03:00 PM
                        • RamWraith
                          Chandler will start, but Jackson may not
                          by RamWraith
                          By Jim Thomas
                          Of the Post-Dispatch
                          12/06/2004

                          No one had more fun Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome than quarterback Chris Chandler, who guided the Rams to a 16-6 victory over San Francisco in relief of the injured Marc Bulger.

                          "To a certain degree, I think it's more fun as the time runs out in someone's career," Chandler said. "As the sand runs through the hourglass, and you know that (retirement) is not 10 years away anymore."

                          At age 39, Chandler realizes his days in the NFL are numbered. But he'll get at least one more start - Sunday in Carolina. With Bulger still a week or two away from being ready to play, coach Mike Martz named Chandler the starter against the Panthers.

                          Bulger has a bone bruise on his throwing shoulder at the top of his collarbone. The good news is, it's not a shoulder separation.

                          "The AC (joint) separations that are so typical for quarterbacks was not there," Martz said. "There is a little bit of swelling in the joint, but there's no damage evidently to the ligaments that hold the joint together."

                          The bad news is, Bulger's in a lot of pain.

                          "He's awfully sore today," Martz said at his Monday news conference. "It's very tender. When you have a bone bruise like that, it can be very painful. So we'll just have to see how he deals with it."

                          Meanwhile, the outlook on rookie running back Steven Jackson's bruised right knee was more clouded Monday.

                          "I don't know if he'll be available this week or not," Martz said. "I suppose he will be, but who knows?"

                          Jackson apparently suffered the injury on the last of his 26 carries against the *****. He was replaced for the final two Rams offensive plays by Arlen Harris. If neither Jackson nor Marshall Faulk is able to play against the Panthers, Harris would get the start.

                          The Rams plan to hold Faulk out of practice most, if not all, of this week. As to Faulk's availability against Carolina, Martz said, "It's all based on Marshall, on his health and how he feels and how he's going. When he's healthy, he's feeling good, there's no reason to diminish what he does."

                          According to team officials, Jackson complained of soreness in the knee when he reported for treatment Monday - more soreness than expected. But Jackson has another day to rest the knee before the team's first practice of the work week on Wednesday.

                          The team will have a new backup quarterback on the field Wednesday in Jamie Martin.

                          That's right, Jamie Martin. The Rams are bringing in Martin, who has been out of football since October 2003, as quarterback insurance while Bulger is sidelined. Tight end and fullback Nick Burley, promoted to the active roster from the practice squad last week, will be released to free up a roster...
                          -12-07-2004, 04:39 AM
                        • Nick
                          Martz says he won`t scale back Rams' offense for Chandler's start
                          by Nick
                          Martz says he won`t scale back Rams' offense for Chandler's start
                          BY STEVE KORTE
                          Knight Ridder Newspapers

                          ST. LOUIS - (KRT) - After 17 seasons in the NFL, quarterback Chris Chandler can fully appreciate the opportunity at hand.

                          Chandler will be the starting quarterback for the St. Louis Rams against the Carolina Panthers at 3:15 p.m. CST on Sunday at Bank of America Stadium.

                          Chandler is starting in place of Marc Bulger, who could be sidelined from 1 to 3 games because of a bruised throwing shoulder.

                          "I`m not going to play another 10 years," Chandler said. "When you`re younger, it seems like your future is infinite. As you get a little older, every opportunity you get you should really cherish, respect, and go out there and enjoy the heck out of them."

                          At 39, Chandler became the elder statesmen on the Rams` roster after punter Sean Landeta was released two weeks ago.

                          Chandler said he hears plenty of jokes about his age.

                          "You name it, I get all kinds of things," Chandler said. "We saw Steve Bono walking off the field Sunday, and Marshall (Faulk) kept asking me if I came in the league before Steve Bono did."

                          Bono, who serves as the alumni coordinator for the San Francisco *****, entered the NFL in 1985. Chandler arrived three years later in 1998 as a third-round draft pick of the Indianapolis Colts.

                          "We used to give it to Landeta because he was like 95 (years old) or something," Rams center Andy McCollum said. "I just like for them to give it to somebody other than me because I`m the oldest in our (offensive line) room. I`m the one who gets it."

                          Carolina cornerback Ricky Manning, 24 years old and playing in his second season in the NFL, even took a little shot at Chandler`s age this week.

                          "You know, I couldn`t even tell you. I don`t remember," Manning said when asked if he`d ever seen Chandler play. "I probably just played with him on Tecmo Bowl or something, one of those video games. And, if y`all don`t know Tecmo Bowl, it was one of the first Nintendo games."

                          Chandler said the age jokes don`t bother him anymore.

                          "Actually, nowadays, I laugh at it," Chandler said. "A few years ago, it would kind of bother me. But being as old as I am, and being in the league as long as I have been, and playing at the level I'm playing at, I kind of hang my hat on that now."

                          Rams coach Mike Martz wasn`t so amused with an Internet columnist who mocked Chandler because of his age.

                          "He`s not 500 years old," Martz said. "It doesn`t matter how old he is, he can play. He has terrific legs. Can any of you guys go at nine on the treadmill for 35 minutes? Maybe you can, but I know I can`t. That and the fact that his arm strength...
                          -12-12-2004, 12:53 AM
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