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    While one must give Arizona credit for having a quality, well-coached club, there is no excuse for the Rams to lose that game tonight. Given an opportunity at home to beat an opponent who played with both their 2nd and 3rd string QBs, and missing their starting RB, we couldn't get the job done. We did nothing in this game to give ourselves a spark. No big plays, no pass rush, not one turnover and perhaps the worst half of offensive football in recent memory (and that's REALLY saying something). After a brief "feel good" period featuring shutouts against two NFL doormats, all the old deficiencies reared their ugly head again: poor QB play, poor offensive line blocking/protection, receivers' inability to get open, etc. and so forth. Once again, I enthusiastically look to the end of another long, unfulfilling season which was derailed from the start.

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    Mannn, I hear you NJ. :disapointed:

    Quite frustrating indeed. Tonight, it was ours for the taking. Coach Fish must feel lousy too.

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    • #3
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      No apologies necessary, the Rams organization owes its fans an apology for giving us a ****show of a team on primetime. Where the **** was the gameplan to counter pass rushes (screens, quick slants, etc.)?


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        Originally posted by Flippin' Ram View Post
        No apologies necessary, the Rams organization owes its fans an apology for giving us a ... show of a team on primetime. Where the ... was the gameplan to counter pass rushes (screens, quick slants, etc.)?
        Let's see what Coach has to say. This one was / should have been, in the bag. :frown:

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          Blame this one on the Oline and the O co-ordinator.... They were both atrocious. They couldn't block, so what do they do? 5 step drops and throw it on slow developing plays.... No adjustments on offense until it was too late. Defense played well and didn't deserve this loss. Another prime time failure.


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            I can't say I'm surprised. If NFL teams were given middle names, inconsistent would fit best with this team;

            Welcome to your 2014 St. Louis Inconsistent Rams

            I knew people were getting a little too excited after last weeks historic achievement with their second straight shutout.

            That is, against perhaps the two worst teams in the NFL this season.

            But, I guess, getting overly excited about your team is the very essence of what makes you a fan.

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            • #7
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              I would have loved to see us go to a hurry up offense to try and tire their defense out a bit. I hate that we dont get the ball in tavon's hands enough.

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                Originally posted by RAMFANRAIDERHATER View Post
                Blame this one on the Oline and the O co-ordinator.... They were both atrocious. They couldn't block, so what do they do? 5 step drops and throw it on slow developing plays....
                Just so maddening to watch. Other teams can run bang bang plays to neutralize a pass rush, why can't we??

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                  To just rub the salt further into the wound, its not like the cardinals blitzing and terrific pressure should come as a surprise to schotty or anyone else. That is what they do and that is the key to their defense. It sure didnt look like he was prepared for it.

                  One other thing. Anyone else think that Hill's reads at the line of scrimmage stink?

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                  • #10
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                    Yup GC. It's about as good as his unorthodox throwing mechanics, as well. The more I see of Hill, the more I just want to cover my eyes every time he's in shot-gun or drops back.

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                      In the first game of the year when you have ALL offseason to prepare your first 20 offensive plays of the game, we came out with a boring game plan, terrible execution, and were flat vs. the Vikings. How is that even possible?

                      We don't scheme for the opposing defenses weaknesses, we just run plays regardless of who we are playing. Finally vs. the Chargers, Schotty used Tavon the way Patterson killed us in that first game vs the Vikings. It took him 10 weeks to copy that play. That sums up where we are in terms of creativity on offense.

                      Not too mention the 3 and outs on offense just kill your defense. How long have we been singing that tune? As for our defense, they're good, but the reality is, we had a pretty good defense in the year before Fisher. I'm not even sure this defense is better than what we had under Spagnolo? So have we really improved at all?

                      And to top it all off, with the possibility of putting a silver lining on this grey cloud of this season, and a chance to get to .500 on Prime Time TV, we put that pathetic offensive display on. We needed to leave everything out there, instead it's like we're still playing it safe. Trying to establish the Run... Playing "not to lose". It seems like Fisher's M.O.

                      7-9... Deja vu.

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                      • #12
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                        The Rams were outplayed and Fish was outcoached, which is less of an achievement than the team being outplayed. Let's give full credit where credit is due.

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                        • #13
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                          I'm usually a skeptic, but the Rams played one of the best D's in the league on three days rest. I'm inclined to think that had something to do about it.

                          That said, I was surprised that we ran the ball so little. I know the Cards have a good run defense, but in a ball control game like that you've just got to try running more (and not just up the gut). And the offensive line still isn't good enough; it boggles the mind that getting a top flight line hasn't be priority one on offensive given how they want to play.

                          I'd like us to get a high draft pick on OL, find a new center, and maybe even another TE. I also think a WR coach who could get these guys to learn about separation would be a good addition.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by TorontoRam View Post
                            The Rams were outplayed and Fish was outcoached, which is less of an achievement than the team being outplayed. Let's give full credit where credit is due.
                            The Cardinals stunk, and the Rams stunk worse. Don't know if that truly qualifies as being outplayed.

                            And what exactly would you have had Jeff Fisher do- short of suiting up and playing offense? The Rams are simply not good enough to beat good teams with a back-up QB unless they force turnovers and get a big play or two. Neither happened last night.

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                            • #15
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                              I would say the AZ defense was good and Schotty's alleged offense was bad...
                              "The disappointment of losing is huge!"

                              Jack Youngblood

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