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  • #16
    Re: No chance of a comeback

    Originally posted by GreatestShow99 View Post
    Ha. I say that about the Ram fanbase that continues to ***** about Super Bowl XXXVI.

    Troy Brown recently said it best, Get over it.
    For you to type this, you, my friend are not TRULY a Rams Fan.

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    • #17
      Re: No chance of a comeback

      Originally posted by cowboyhater View Post
      Last time I bought tickets and made the trip (2003), I wound up in row VV in the corner, largely surrounded by Cowboys' fans. Maybe I should make the trip out this year if I can get the lower deck!
      I was in the lower deck for the Cowboys game this year, and was completely surrounded by Cowboys fans. If the Rams play in St, Louis next year, it's going to be ugly, REAL UGLY.

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      • #18
        Re: No chance of a comeback

        Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
        I was in the lower deck for the Cowboys game this year, and was completely surrounded by Cowboys fans. If the Rams play in St, Louis next year, it's going to be ugly, REAL UGLY.
        The atmosphere at that game was really depressing.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post

          I was in the lower deck for the Cowboys game this year, and was completely surrounded by Cowboys fans. If the Rams play in St, Louis next year, it's going to be ugly, REAL UGLY.
          I do not see the benefit of a lame duck season in St.Louis at all. Yes the team does not have to rush to move so they can perform OTA, MINICAMPS, ETC. There will literally be less attendance at the games then last year. In addition for the LA stadium to be built and operational before 2018, they would need to break now, so everyone would know the rams arw moving back to LA. If the Rams are moving, it makes little sense to stay.

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          • #20
            Re: No chance of a comeback

            Originally posted by bruce4life View Post
            I do not see the benefit of a lame duck season in St.Louis at all. Yes the team does not have to rush to move so they can perform OTA, MINICAMPS, ETC. There will literally be less attendance at the games then last year. In addition for the LA stadium to be built and operational before 2018, they would need to break now, so everyone would know the rams arw moving back to LA. If the Rams are moving, it makes little sense to stay.
            I agree, If they stay, it's going to be a train wreck.

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            • #21
              Re: No chance of a comeback

              Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
              I agree, If they stay, it's going to be a train wreck.

              Yes I agree. This team is on the cusp of a winning season but this next year in St Louis could derail that. If they stay for 2015, not shaping up to be pretty at all.

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              • #22
                Re: No chance of a comeback

                I think they need to stay in St. Louis this year even if they do move to LA the following year. Last thing the Rams need is moving back without a big time campaign to get the new - old fan base ready to support the team. If they made a late announcement this year they are coming back not sure they get off to a great start with ticket sales ect. The Rams need to get some games shown in the LA market this year and perhaps hold camp here if it's looks like a sure thing.

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                • #23
                  Re: No chance of a comeback

                  Originally posted by Rambos View Post
                  I think they need to stay in St. Louis this year even if they do move to LA the following year. Last thing the Rams need is moving back without a big time campaign to get the new - old fan base ready to support the team. If they made a late announcement this year they are coming back not sure they get off to a great start with ticket sales ect. The Rams need to get some games shown in the LA market this year and perhaps hold camp here if it's looks like a sure thing.
                  I disagree. I think, as many here do, that staying in Stl in 2015 will be a mistake and detrimental to the team and the win/loss record. Too many distractions, with angry fans that will boo at any chance during a game when things go south. (worse than they do now) ...and a stadium filled with opposing teams fans. (worse than it is now) The players will be glad to get a road game if they stay in Stl this year. Just my honest opinion.

                  But I think a move now is going to be an instant winner in LA. Be it the Coliseum or Rose Bowl, I see huge crowds right out of the gate. It's a big piece of (returning) history that many fans will celebrate and embrace. I see easily 70,000+ fans attending home games when they return home.
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                  • #24
                    Re: No chance of a comeback

                    Of course, staying in St. Louis this year can be a bad thing for the move to LA. If the RAMS finally turn the corner next year, have a winning season (especially early), and have a playoff season, ticket sales will go through the roof. The current Season Ticket holders will actually use their tickets instead of stubhubbing them, and the Dome will be rocking like it was 8+ years ago. Then Stan would have less leverage to move to LA.

                    For anyone that doubts this, look at the season ticket stats from 1999. I could buy just about any ticket for face value before the first 49whiners' game. After the RAMS crushed them in that game, you couldn't hardly buy a ticket. I know someone that bought PSLs that year. In the mad rush to sell PSLs and Season Tickets, they double sold her PSL. For that year they honored her PSL in the lower bowl 'wheelchair' seats because that was the only thing available that was as good or better than what she bought.

                    All of that was because, after 4 years of bad football, the team finally had ONE GOOD GAME against a quality opponent. Let the RAMS have a string of really good games, against quality and not-so-much quality opponents, and LA has less chance of the RAMS getting to LA. No, this is NOT GOOD for LA fans, but it could be really good for RAMS fans.


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                    • #25
                      Re: No chance of a comeback

                      Originally posted by gap View Post
                      All of that was because, after 4 years of bad football, the team finally had ONE GOOD GAME against a quality opponent. Let the RAMS have a string of really good games, against quality and not-so-much quality opponents, and LA has less chance of the RAMS getting to LA. No, this is NOT GOOD for LA fans, but it could be really good for RAMS fans.


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                      Gap I'd love to believe this were true but we saw an example of why that's not true with the current state of things in St Louis. This past years Rams team saw a home game vs the defending AFC Champ Denver Broncos. We went on to dominate this game and beat first ballot HOF Peyton Manning 22-7. The Rams led from start to finish and the game was never in doubt. There is video of Rams players during this game wondering why the Bronco's and Peyton were getting so many cheers and cheered so loudly they were baffled how this could happen.

                      We followed that up by going to 2013 playoff team San Diego and losing in the closing minutes after an ill advised throw from Hill.

                      Now the team didn't get down hell no they followed that close game vs a quality opponent by absolutely annihilating the Raiders 52-0! In front of the home crowd too!

                      Our young Ram team followed that up with a Road shutout this time against the Redskins 24-0! The Rams have just completed back to back shutouts and winning 3 of 4 games. The only loss a road game vs a tough playoff team.

                      So what happens then? They come home for a nationally televised game vs a division rival. The team that abandoned the city of St Louis and moved to the desert with their hated owner Bidwell! This is a team that's on the way to a playoff spot surely we can expect a high turnout for the game right? I mean our defense has just come off a 4 game stretch that was amazing 2 shut outs and holding Petyon to under 10 points for the first time in his HOF career inside a dome! Wikipedia lists the game attendance at 55,880. Over 10k below what the listed capacity of the EJD is. Many of us who watched the game on TV would be surprised if there were even that many there in the stands.

                      St Louis fans had a golden opportunity to show us what you claim they'll do next year. They dropped the ball and as badly as the Rams did in that opportunity game.

                      Both sides of this LA vs StL fued just need to just stop the infighting it's pointless and gets us nowhere. I make almost annual trips back to StL for games, this was the first year in a quite a few I haven't gone, and meet some really great Rams fans. I wish this whole stadium mess would have resolved itself so that we could all just go on rooting for our favorite team together. But I don't know who's poisoned the fan base more, Stan or us Rams fans ourselves.
                      The restoration is complete!

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                      • #26
                        Re: No chance of a comeback

                        Originally posted by Mikey View Post
                        Gap I'd love to believe this were true but we saw an example of why that's not true with the current state of things in St Louis. This past years Rams team saw a home game vs the defending AFC Champ Denver Broncos. We went on to dominate this game and beat first ballot HOF Peyton Manning 22-7. The Rams led from start to finish and the game was never in doubt. There is video of Rams players during this game wondering why the Bronco's and Peyton were getting so many cheers and cheered so loudly they were baffled how this could happen.

                        We followed that up by going to 2013 playoff team San Diego and losing in the closing minutes after an ill advised throw from Hill.

                        Now the team didn't get down hell no they followed that close game vs a quality opponent by absolutely annihilating the Raiders 52-0! In front of the home crowd too!

                        Our young Ram team followed that up with a Road shutout this time against the Redskins 24-0! The Rams have just completed back to back shutouts and winning 3 of 4 games. The only loss a road game vs a tough playoff team.

                        So what happens then? They come home for a nationally televised game vs a division rival. The team that abandoned the city of St Louis and moved to the desert with their hated owner Bidwell! This is a team that's on the way to a playoff spot surely we can expect a high turnout for the game right? I mean our defense has just come off a 4 game stretch that was amazing 2 shut outs and holding Petyon to under 10 points for the first time in his HOF career inside a dome! Wikipedia lists the game attendance at 55,880. Over 10k below what the listed capacity of the EJD is. Many of us who watched the game on TV would be surprised if there were even that many there in the stands.

                        St Louis fans had a golden opportunity to show us what you claim they'll do next year. They dropped the ball and as badly as the Rams did in that opportunity game.

                        Both sides of this LA vs StL fued just need to just stop the infighting it's pointless and gets us nowhere. I make almost annual trips back to StL for games, this was the first year in a quite a few I haven't gone, and meet some really great Rams fans. I wish this whole stadium mess would have resolved itself so that we could all just go on rooting for our favorite team together. But I don't know who's poisoned the fan base more, Stan or us Rams fans ourselves.
                        Remind me again how losing to San Diego is a win? Can you also remind me how to figure 6-10 into a winning season? Remind me again how a 1-4 start is better than 5-0 start? And how does all this show the local fans that a winning season is on the way? 34-6 drubbing by Minni and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory loss to Dallas, and yet another embarrassing loss to the 49whiners is not what I would call a 'turn around' season.

                        I will say it again, a TURN AROUND 2015 season in St. Louis is a bad thing for the LA fans because St. Louis fans will turn that stadium into a rockin' environment if the RAMS will finally put something on the field that resembles good, disciplined football. It only took TWICE as long as some other cities for the fans to recognize the team is being mismanaged in an attempt to have an excuse to move. And those good fans will be back in droves when they finally see an attempt to give them quality football.


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                        • #27
                          Re: No chance of a comeback

                          I took a look at the average attendence for an NFL team in 2014, divided it by the capacity of the stadium, and came up with a percentage which analyses the amount the stadium was "filled" for each NFL team.

                          I then also looked at those teams with "losing" records, since it has been suggested that a losing team won't get the support from it's market.

                          The bottom five ranked teams when it comes to percentage attendence are Oakland, Tampa Bay, Cleveland, Jacksonville and of course, St Louis.

                          In fact, only two teams had percentages below 90%, Oakland at 85.06%, and St Louis at 87.30%

                          Poor performance on the field alone does not account for this. There were 10 teams with records worse than or equal to the Rams. You have teams like Tampa and Tennessee with two win seasons. And yet they fill the stands better than the Rams? It's just ridiculous really. At some point the excuse that the team isn't winning enough just doesn't work. If Washington can fill their bigger stadium better than the Rams whilst putting out a team that gets shut out by said Rams, then the people of St Louis can do better and actually turn up for games.
                          @EssexRam_

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                          • #28
                            Re: No chance of a comeback

                            Originally posted by gap View Post
                            Remind me again how losing to San Diego is a win? Can you also remind me how to figure 6-10 into a winning season? Remind me again how a 1-4 start is better than 5-0 start? And how does all this show the local fans that a winning season is on the way? 34-6 drubbing by Minni and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory loss to Dallas, and yet another embarrassing loss to the 49whiners is not what I would call a 'turn around' season.

                            I will say it again, a TURN AROUND 2015 season in St. Louis is a bad thing for the LA fans because St. Louis fans will turn that stadium into a rockin' environment if the RAMS will finally put something on the field that resembles good, disciplined football. It only took TWICE as long as some other cities for the fans to recognize the team is being mismanaged in an attempt to have an excuse to move. And those good fans will be back in droves when they finally see an attempt to give them quality football.


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                            You said all it took was one big win. Now you're putting qualifiers on it. I gave you three good wins ina a four game stretch with one very close loss. Those good fans have seen an attempt to give them quality football.
                            The restoration is complete!

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                            • #29
                              Re: No chance of a comeback

                              Pardon my naivete, but is it actually possible to play the 2015 season in St. Louis, with the issue of the Rams moving/staying still in doubt? In other words, what kind of ultimate schedule is Kroenke up against?

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                              • #30
                                Re: No chance of a comeback

                                Originally posted by RAMFANRAIDERHATER View Post
                                I disagree. I think, as many here do, that staying in Stl in 2015 will be a mistake and detrimental to the team and the win/loss record. Too many distractions, with angry fans that will boo at any chance during a game when things go south. (worse than they do now) ...and a stadium filled with opposing teams fans. (worse than it is now) The players will be glad to get a road game if they stay in Stl this year. Just my honest opinion.

                                But I think a move now is going to be an instant winner in LA. Be it the Coliseum or Rose Bowl, I see huge crowds right out of the gate. It's a big piece of (returning) history that many fans will celebrate and embrace. I see easily 70,000+ fans attending home games when they return home.
                                Mr. Kroenke is not going to announce/move the team until he is certain he can go forward with his plan in Inglewood. That's just good business, and that means nothing definite until June. if the June ballot goes as most feel it will, and the plan is approved by local voters, it would be too late to move the team for 2015. I do believe it's Mr. Kroenke's intention to move the team back to L.A. I also firmly believe that there's nothing the NFL can do to stop him. Slow him down, maybe. But, ultimately, the NFL will want to avoid anti-trust litigation. I know many are hoping that the plan in STL is approved. Even if it is, as it is, no one can force Mr. Kroenke to pay for it. If he is unwilling, there is no plan. All anyone can do is wait.
                                That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!

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                                  Rams owner Stan Kroenke won more than just L.A.
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                                  By Dan Wetzel

                                  DENVER – Stan Kroenke owns three major professional sports franchises in the Denver area: the NBA Nuggets, the NHL Avalanche and the MLS Rapids, plus the Colorado Mammoth of the National Lacrosse League.

                                  When he is here to tend to their business, which is often, he lives in a spacious penthouse jutting out of one side and on top of the Pepsi Center, the 18,000-seat downtown arena he also owns.

                                  It's an incredible home, spacious and brilliantly decorated, with multiple outdoor spaces and views of both downtown and the Rocky Mountains in the distance. Once inside, it feels like a standalone home off in some gated community in the suburbs, not something that is an elevator ride from a raucous arena.

                                  "Convenient commute," Kroenke said with a laugh to Yahoo Sports on Saturday night while watching his Nuggets defeat the Detroit Pistons.

                                  It's every young sports fans' dream – can't we just live in the arena?

                                  "Sports and real estate development is a large part of what we do," said Kroenke, who Forbes estimates is worth $7.7 billion.

                                  Sports and real estate. Real estate and sports.

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                                  I hopped into a waiting limo in Oakland, expecting to find Al Davis, but got a pair of Raiderettes instead. So I never did get around to meeting with Davis to discuss the possibility of the Raiders returning to L.A.

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                                • MauiRam
                                  Bernie: Way too early to panic about Rams ..
                                  by MauiRam
                                  BY BERNIE MIKLASZ, Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:00 am

                                  When word got out that the Rams had been contacted by the group that's trying to recruit an NFL team for Los Angeles, it caused a wave of panic in St. Louis.

                                  This apparently was headline news. Judging by the way the story was played up by St. Louis television stations, you would have thought a fleet of moving vans was out at Rams Park, loading up Sam Bradford and the team's other worldly possessions for an immediate transfer to LA.

                                  But really, was anyone really shocked? Los Angeles obviously wants an NFL franchise to anchor a massive stadium project there. The Rams are one of several NFL teams drawing attention from LA for obvious reasons.

                                  This isn't exactly a covert CIA operation. Teams with stadium issues in their home markets are being targeted. The Rams qualify; they'll probably be free to vacate their Edward Jones Dome lease after the 2014 season.

                                  So naturally the Rams and owner Stan Kroenke are going to get a call from LA.

                                  It would be more surprising if they didn't get a call from LA.

                                  But just because someone expresses interest in your football team, it doesn't mean the team is moving. There's a long way to go in this game. As it is, the Rams are committed to playing four more seasons of football at The Ed. A lot can be done between now and then.

                                  And if billionaire Philip Anschutz — the billionaire behind the LA project — wants a team, the Rams may be the wrong fit. He's apparently looking to purchase a team as part of moving it to LA.

                                  Why would Kroenke want to sell the Rams to Anschutz? Kroenke helped bring the Rams to St. Louis in 1995 by stepping forward to become Georgia Frontiere's ownership partner and buying 40 percent of the team.

                                  Kroenke patiently hung on to that 40 percent share for 15 years, until he finally had the chance to buy full control of the Rams. But before becoming the owner, Kroenke had to work out a complicated arrangement with the NFL to get around the league's rules prohibiting cross ownership.

                                  Kroenke has owned the Rams for less than a year. Buying his way into the NFL inner circle of owners was obviously an important quest for Kroenke. So after going through 15 years of waiting to make it happen, why would Kroenke want to give up his seat in the owners' circle?

                                  This makes no sense. And Kroenke is a buyer and a collector, not a seller. Just look at all of the sports properties he's purchased or developed: the NFL Rams, the NBA Denver Nuggets, the NHL Colorado Avalanche, the Pepsi Center in Denver, the MLS Colorado Rapids, a soccer stadium in Colorado, a pro lacrosse team in Colorado, and the Arsenal soccer club in the English Premier League.

                                  Sure, Kroenke could try to move the team without selling it. But in my conversations with Kroenke, he has consistently and repeatedly stated...
                                  -06-12-2011, 11:30 AM
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