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    With Warner going out of the game agains Carolina last week. what do you think Mike Martz should do. keep him in this week or sit him out and let Jamey Martin
    come in and give warner a rest.
    Last edited by Warner_Bruce_03; -11-18-2001, 06:54 AM.

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    em, this is the exact same question you have asked last week ????????????????????????????????????????????

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      Warner

      I posted the message, and i think they should let warner come in for a half and if they're not ahead. let him stay in and if they are winning take him out and let Jamey WMaritin in
      Last edited by Warner_Bruce_03; -11-18-2001, 06:54 AM.

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        Ah I see what you have done, you have used the same heading as you did two posts down ....

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          Jamey Wright? I'm sure you mean Jamie Martin.

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