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    Jared Goff vs. Carson Wentz: Who should Rams take with No. 1 draft pick?
    Published: April 15, 2016 at 04:05 p.m. Updated: April 15, 2016 at 04:54 p.m.
    NFL.com

    On Thursday, the Los Angeles Rams sent shockwaves through the NFL by jumping from No. 15 in this month's draft all the way up to No. 1. Of course, this move didn't come without a price: The Rams sent the Titans two first-round picks, two second-rounders and two third-rounders over the next two drafts (in exchange for No. 1, No. 113 and No. 177 in this month's event). But the trade puts the Rams in position to (presumably) draft a quarterback to build around as the franchise returns to L.A.

    It appears that two signal callers have separated themselves from the pack: Cal's Jared Goff and North Dakota State's Carson Wentz. Saturday night at 8 p.m. ET, NFL Network will break down the biggest question heading into the 2016 draft with a special program, "Path to the Draft: Goff or Wentz?" But in the meantime, what do you think? Which of these two QBs should the Rams select at No. 1 overall?

    Charley Casserly
    Writer | NFL.com
    Carson Wentz has more long-term promise, but Jared Goff is the guy for L.A. in 2016

    I like Carson Wentz over Jared Goff long term, but Goff is a better fit right now. And Los Angeles could indeed be a QB away from being a playoff team -- the Rams have a good defense and a Pro Bowl RB in Todd Gurley. Goff has very good pocket presence -- he sees things quickly and has a quick release. But he does not have a top arm.

    To be frank, though, I don't think either one of these QBs is an elite prospect.

    Daniel Jeremiah
    Writer | NFL.com
    Wentz is the superior prospect -- in fact, he's better than Blake Bortles was coming out of UCF

    They should take Carson Wentz. He's bigger, more athletic, has a stronger arm and gained experience in an NFL system while at North Dakota State. He's proven to play his best in big moments, and he's done nothing but win his entire athletic career.

    Wentz's toughness, competitiveness and football intelligence are off the charts. He's a better player than Blake Bortles was coming out of Central Florida.

    Gil Brandt
    Writer | NFL.com
    I have Wentz rated slightly higher, but I think Goff is a better fit in Los Angeles

    In my rankings -- which will be released on NFL.com on Monday -- I have Carson Wentz one spot ahead of Jared Goff. But, if I were the Rams, I would go with Goff because of the fact the he was raised in California. He would be much more familiar with the difficulty of movement in Los Angeles, mainly traffic and the pace of living. Goff would have an easier time adapting to the high-intensity way of life in the L.A. area. Moving to California would be a culture shock for anybody who has lived their entire life in North Dakota.

    Lance Zierlein
    Writer | NFL.com
    Return to L.A. gives Rams more time to develop a QB -- I'd bet on Wentz's upside

    If this were still the St. Louis Rams, I would probably say Jared Goff because they would need to win more immediately. However, in Los Angeles, the Rams should have a honeymoon period that allows them to bring Carson Wentz along with more patience.

    At the end of the day, I believe that Wentz has the potential to be a "face of the franchise" quarterback more than Goff.

    Bucky Brooks
    Writer | NFL.com
    Goff's experience will allow him to be the Rams' starter on Day 1

    The Rams should take Jared Goff with the top pick. The Cal quarterback is the more polished and experienced player at the position. Goff enters the NFL with 1,500-plus pass attempts and 37 career college starts (compared to Wentz's 612 attempts and 23 college starts), which makes him better prepared to step into the lineup as a Day 1 starter.

    From a physical standpoint, Goff doesn't have the big arm or prototypical dimensions of Wentz, but he displays better footwork and poise in the pocket. He plays with his eyes and feet connected, while exhibiting good poise under duress. Goff's ability to thrive within chaos sets him apart from others in the class and gives him the nod in this debate.

    Considering Goff's outstanding touch, timing and anticipation as a passer, the Rams finally have a chance to field an explosive offense with the potential to attack on the ground or through the air.

    Chase Goodbread
    Writer | NFL.com
    Rams made a bold move with win-now intentions, so Goff has to be the pick

    You don't blow a hole in two drafts -- as the L.A. Rams just did in moving up to No. 1 -- to acquire a quarterback who might need a year or two to develop. That's why the choice needs to be Jared Goff of Cal.

    While Carson Wentz's offense at North Dakota State might have been more NFL-like, it's a mistake to lump Cal's "Bear Raid" offense in with other college spread offenses that translate poorly to the pros. Goff, with an experience edge over Wentz -- and having played against a much higher level of competition in the Pac-12 -- will be more ready to win games right off the bat.

    Elliot Harrison
    Writer | NFL.com
    Wentz would seem to be a better fit in the Rams' Todd Gurley-led offense

    I'm thinking Carson Wentz. Unless the Rams view Jared Goff as a clearly superior quarterback to Wentz, I would go with the guy who has been under center more in his career if I were part of the Rams' brass. Not because Goff can't assimilate himself to pro sets outside of the spread and shotgun, but because the Rams' best player is tailback Todd Gurley, who often operates out of a single-back set. The key to the Rams making big plays downfield this season is having success with play action to Gurley, and that is something -- at least under center -- that Wentz is more equipped to carry out at this stage.

    Charles Davis
    Writer | NFL.com
    Wentz will fit like a glove into into Jeff Fisher's offense

    I have had Jared Goff rated slightly higher than Carson Wentz throughout the run up to the draft. But when it comes to who should the Rams take with the No. 1 overall pick, I believe they should select Carson Wentz. To me, he would fit nicely with what Los Angeles wants to do on offense given head coach Jeff Fisher's background -- run the ball, hit big plays off of play action, and pair that philosophy with a stout defense already in place. Wentz's background at North Dakota State saw him handling line calls, adjustments and audibles in the run and pass game, and operating a lot of offense from under center, in the pistol and shot gun. His ability to read fronts and control the run game would be valuable.

    As an added bonus, his athleticism and comfort running the ball will really come in handy. The possibility of his escaping out the backdoor will help tamp down pressure packages focused solely on stopping Pro Bowl RB Todd Gurley, and Wentz's sturdy 6-foot-5, 237-pound frame allows him a great chance to hold up well as a runner.

    Finally, with the heavy focus and commitment to running the football, the plan would be for Wentz to be able to throw the ball against easier coverages and in more favorable situations. That would allow him to break into and acclimate to the league quicker, as well as develop without being hit so often early in his career when trying to pass.

    This formula worked well for Ben Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson as rookies. I think that Carson Wentz would find it agreeable, too.

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  • r8rh8rmike
    Wentz has advantage that could explain why he’s having more success than Goff
    by r8rh8rmike
    Carson Wentz has one simple advantage that could explain why he’s having more success than No. 1 pick Jared Goff
    Cork Gaines Sep. 20, 2016, 12:26 PM


    Mitchell Leff/Getty Images; Jae Hong/AP

    After the Philadelphia Eagles' win on Monday night, they are now 2-0 with Carson Wentz. As a result, questions are already being raised about whether the Los Angeles Rams made a mistake passing on Wentz to draft Jared Goff with the first pick in the draft.

    However, those questions may not be fair to Goff simply because Wentz appears to have one big advantage working in his favor: he was drafted by a team that was in a better position to help a young quarterback transition to the NFL.

    Before the draft, the general consensus on the two quarterbacks was that Wentz had a slight advantage in ability but that Goff had a huge advantage in being better prepared for the NFL. Goff was coming from Cal and out of the Pac-12 Conference. Meanwhile, Wentz played in the FCS (college football's second division) at North Dakota State. Wentz' learning curve was supposed to be much steeper.

    And yet, after two weeks, Wentz has not only grabbed the starting job with the Eagles much sooner than anticipated, but he already looks like a polished NFL quarterback. Meanwhile, Goff has yet to play and didn't even dress for Week 1.

    Is Wentz just the better quarterback? It is possible, but it is still too early to know with any certainty. But his early success may be attributable to having a coaching staff that has a lot more experience working with quarterbacks.

    Every quarterback has three important coaches that impact their play, the head coach, the offensive coordinator, and the quarterbacks coach. Check out the differences in their resumes, according to Chris Wesseling of Around the NFL:
    Twitter/ChrisWesseling

    Now, this is not a complete picture. Weinke is actually in his second year as a coach and was an NFL quarterback for seven seasons. He also helped develop quarterbacks at the IMG Academy in Florida.

    But still, it appears, on the surface at least, that Wentz was put into a situation where it would be easier for a young QB to transition to the NFL. All three of Wentz's coaches have served as both offensive coordinators and as quarterbacks coaches. All three of Goff's coaches have combined for less than two seasons of coaching quarterbacks.

    None of this means that Goff won't eventually be a star quarterback and it doesn't mean that the Rams whiffed on the pick. But it could explain why Wentz has had more success right out of the gate....
    -09-21-2016, 05:43 PM
  • r8rh8rmike
    Cal QB Jared Goff has skills, NFL-ready talent to warrant being Rams' No. 1 pick
    by r8rh8rmike
    Cal QB Jared Goff has skills, NFL-ready talent to warrant being Rams' No. 1 pick

    April 16, 2016


    Updated April 17, 2016 10:43 a.m.


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    California quarterback Jared Goff looks for an open receiver against Air Force during the first half of the Armed Forces Bowl on Dec. 29. Goff's pocket presence is considered one of his strengths. RON JENKINS, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS



    As far as college quarterbacks go, Jared Goff is not among the most decorated.

    He racked up gaudy numbers, but did so in an Air Raid-styled spread offense. He was never in serious discussion for any major national awards and had to share his All-Pac-12 first-team nod this past season. He finished with a career record of 14-23.

    None of that, however, should prevent the Rams from drafting him No. 1 overall over North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz at the end of this month.

    “I went into every game thinking I’m the best player on the field,” Goff said last summer. “Because I think you have to.”

    He was reflecting on his 2013 debut at Cal, when he became the first true freshman quarterback in program history to start a season opener. That first campaign in Berkeley was miserable, with the Golden Bears winning just a single game under new coach Sonny Dykes.

    But to those who would knock Goff for not being a “winner,” consider this: The 21-year-old is already mentally prepared for the hardships of an NFL transition. He is unlikely to see his confidence shaken by even the worst losses, unlikely to be fazed by the pressure of being anointed the savior of Los Angeles pro football.

    He also checks off several other boxes, having improved his passer rating by double digits in every season. CBS Sports’ Dane Brugler and NBC Sports’ Josh Norris both rank the Bay Area product as the more attractive prospect, as does Sports Illustrated’s Chris Burke. Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller said in a recent radio appearance that he would take Goff over Wentz “without a doubt.”

    Even NFL Network’s Mike Mayock, who prefers Wentz for his tools and upside, has called Goff the “most ready-to-play quarterback in this draft.”

    “You just don’t see very often college quarterbacks who have his ability both mentally and physically,” Brugler said. “His ability to throw guys open, that passing anticipating. You saw that a little bit with Jameis Winston, but he brings something different to the table – something that projects very well to the NFL level.”

    Of course, it’s easy enough to find those on the other side of the aisle, too. Wentz is still the favorite to go No. 1 on a litany of mock drafts, including one from Cris Collinsworth that predicted the Rams’ blockbuster trade a month before it was finalized.

    The case for Wentz is simple enough to understand. The Bismarck, N.D., native stands at 6-foot-5 and 235...
    -04-18-2016, 12:21 PM
  • Nick
    PFT: Signs point strongly to Jared Goff as the first pick
    by Nick
    Signs point strongly to Jared Goff as the first pick
    Posted by Mike Florio on April 24, 2016, 10:00 PM EDT

    Immediately after the Rams traded up from No. 15 to No. 1 in the draft, it seemed that the Rams would select quarterback Carson Wentz. Ultimately, conflicting reports emerged regarding whether the Rams would take Wentz or quarterback Jared Goff — and that’s perhaps exactly what the Rams wanted.

    As time has passed, a very strong sense has emerged that Goff will indeed be the selection. The decision of the Eagles, who reportedly covet Wentz not Goff, to move to No. 2 suggests strongly that the Eagles know that Goff will be the pick in Los Angeles. Perhaps the only thing that would keep that from happening at this point would be Goff figuratively (or literally) being hit by a bus between now and Thursday night.

    The clearest sign that Goff will be the guy comes from Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times, who reported after the trade that the Rams were “targeting” Wentz. Farmer has since done a 180.

    “Although I first thought the Rams’ pick was Carson Wentz, I believe I misread the signs,” Farmer said Sunday on Twitter. “Mark me down for Jared Goff.”

    Mark me down for Goff, too. If Farmer now believes it, that’s good enough for me.
    -04-25-2016, 04:59 AM
  • Nick
    Rams to meet with both Jared Goff and Carson Wentz
    by Nick
    Rams to meet with both Jared Goff and Carson Wentz
    Posted by Michael David Smith on April 17, 2016, 9:00 AM EDT

    The Rams are continuing to signal publicly that they remain undecided about who will become the franchise quarterback in Los Angeles.

    Days after trading up to the first overall pick in next week’s draft, the Rams have scheduled meetings with both Cal quarterback Jared Goff and North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the team is currently leaning toward Goff but wants time to consider both quarterbacks. Other reports have indicated that the Rams are leaning toward Wentz.

    Some think the Rams knew who they were going to take before they made the trade with the Titans but are just choosing to keep things close to the vest. Even if that’s the case, however, it doesn’t hurt to take a meeting with both quarterbacks and learn a little more about the player they’re not going to take.

    With the draft now just 11 days away, the suspense won’t last much longer. We’ll see how long the Rams can manage to keep a lid on the identity of their pick.
    -04-17-2016, 07:44 AM
  • MauiRam
    Jared Goff has reached out to Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota for advice
    by MauiRam
    By Jackie Bamberger

    LOS ANGELES – Few people can understand the pressure that Los Angeles Rams quarterback Jared Goff has found himself under.

    Luckily for Goff, he just happens to be in touch with some of them.

    Goff said he has reached out to Tennessee Titans quarterback Marcus Mariota, the No. 2 overall pick of the 2015 NFL draft, as well as Blake Bortles, whom the Jaguars took with No. 3 pick in 2014.

    “They’ve been all very helpful,” Goff said at Thursday’s NFL All-Access event at the Los Angeles Coliseum. “They have all said, ‘Ask me anything. I’m very happy to help.’ It was good talking to them.”

    Mariota in particular has been a welcome resource for Goff as he adjusts to the pro game.

    “Marcus gave me some good little hints,” Goff said. “Just different stuff when you’re studying and different stuff that he used to transition from college. We ran similar offenses in college. There'’s different stuff he used to make that transition and I started using them so it definitely helped. Just little different hints.”

    Goff has also been in touch with former Rams quarterbacks. He met Vince Ferragamo and Jim Everett the day after he got drafted in April and he has texted with Kurt Warner.

    Another Rams great, running back Eric Dickerson, shared some words of advice for Goff, whom he compared to another Cal-bred quarterback.

    “He reminds me a little bit of Aaron Rogers with his accuracy,” Dickerson said. “I would tell him just to study. Become a student of the game. As a quarterback, you’ve got to become a student of the game because those defenses move so much and there’s so much happening on that field. He has the ability. I think if he becomes a student of the game, he’ll do very well.”

    For now, Goff said he is doing his best to focus on football and not think too much about what they gave up to select him in this year’s draft.

    “I’m very honored that they did what they did … At the same time, I’m just one person on the team and I’m going to do my part every day, every week and just not make it more than it is. I’m playing quarterback, I’m playing football and I don’t try to make it more than that.”...
    -06-17-2016, 10:24 AM
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