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  • #16
    Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
    My view on him has not changed since the beginning of the season. He continues to show a lack of play-making ability and elite talent. He looks nothing like his time at Georgia. I was ridiculed for saying anything remotely negative about Gurley early on, interesting to see how everyone is starting to realize Gurley is looking off.
    I've been saying the same thing all season as well.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post

      I've been saying the same thing all season as well.
      I know, I believe we were the only ones that had this narrative (or at least the only ones that actually said it out loud).

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RockinRam View Post
        I know, I believe we were the only ones that had this narrative (or at least the only ones that actually said it out loud).
        Along the way, I've also heard countless athletes like Chris Spielman making the same case.



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        • #19
          We all see that Gurley is not the same player this season. I think some of that is on Gurley. Perhaps he's too light. I think "the light and space of [L.A.] really put the zap on his head." He's all low energy, squirrelly and downcast in his pressers. But I saw his ability. He's young and can still play at a high level. The bigger issue is the futility and impotence of Fisher's offense. Look at all of these players who are underachieving for the Rams on offense. (And, of course, they need players.) They've all got to be discouraged and frustrated. No doubt, many of them would improve with good coaches in a good offensive system. In my mind, Gurley remains an asset. It's a matter of creating an environment that gets the best out of these offensive players. Fisher goes: Gurley has a chance to realize his potential as a Ram. Fisher stays: I don't see any basis to expect or even hope for improvement in the situation.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RamFanEsq View Post
            I still think he's elite.

            I believe that if Ezekiel Elliot was on this year's Rams team, and Todd Gurley was on the Cowboys, Gurley would be the Offensive Player of the Year candidate and Elliot would be struggling.

            We'll see what happens next year.
            I'll not argue with that. Todd probably wouldn't either ..

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            • #21
              I think Gurley can be elite, but is not this year because he has not emotionally bought into this offense and is not being utilized properly. On the few plays he's caught passes out of the backfield, already having some physical momentum and some space to move, he's looked fantastic. Just my opinion. Conversely, nearly all of his handoff from quarterback plays have looked ugly. And where other backs have shown resolve to bust through that and be a bruiser when necessary, Gurley has shown the opposite and gone flat.

              We recently had a thread titled 'Rams defense called soft". I say Gurley is the one that should be called out for being soft. Emotionally soft. Rockin and r8trh8trmike have been saying since the season started that he looks off. I think it's because Gurley has not tapped into that pit of his stomach and brought out any real determination this year. And I think he hasn't done that though because he's being utilized poorly and the OL and scheme is awful. Think of how some other past and present leadership type rb players in his position would be looking right now, both on the field and in presser's? Gore, Peterson, Bettis, Marshawn, Priest, shaun alexander, emmit smith... oh my gosh I shouldn't have started listing them cuz it's endless. Think John Riggins et al. Not a single one of these guys would be silent about the run game like Gurley has been about this Rams offense. These guys would be owning it in practice, in games, in podium interviews.... their entire beings would be screaming about how bad it is and they'd probably be exhibiting signs of neurosis. Gurley? Nah, man its cool... just gotta keep plugging away... find the holes...let the game come to me. What?! Dude is clearly not invested this year. That's a coaching failure imo.

              I think Gurley is still a dynamic player and possibly elite. But he's not "bought" into this offense (can you blame him?) and it's showing in his unwillingness to be a grinder. And you can't be "elite" if you're not emotionally prepared to give your all. Just my take.

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              • #22
                DeMarco Murray was brought up in this thread, and I think his history supports the notion that Gurley should not necessarily shoulder the blame for his poor numbers.

                Murray had 1,800+ yards/4.7 ypc for the Cowboys in 2014.

                He then went to the Eagles and, with a different OL and offensive system, struggled with 700 yards/3.6 ypc.

                Now, with the Titans, he has over 1,000 yards and a 4.6 ypc.

                Clearly, OL and offensive system can make a HUGE difference in a RB's numbers.

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                • #23
                  It's next to impossible for a good running back to perform at a high level behind a horrific o-line.
                  It's also not really a direct relationship between having a really good RB and a winning team. Steven Jackson is a perfect example.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RamFanEsq View Post
                    DeMarco Murray was brought up in this thread, and I think his history supports the notion that Gurley should not necessarily shoulder the blame for his poor numbers.

                    Murray had 1,800+ yards/4.7 ypc for the Cowboys in 2014.

                    He then went to the Eagles and, with a different OL and offensive system, struggled with 700 yards/3.6 ypc.

                    Now, with the Titans, he has over 1,000 yards and a 4.6 ypc.

                    Clearly, OL and offensive system can make a HUGE difference in a RB's numbers.
                    I agree with you, but the Rams didn't spend a #10 overall pick on a RB coming off a torn ACL to be DeMarco Murray. He was taken to be the next Adrian Peterson. And so far we've seen one season of the next HOF type back in the NFL, and one that makes him look like Trent Richardson.

                    Let's hope were getting #1.

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                    • #25
                      Even AP needs blockers. Before he was hurt, he had 31 carries for 50 yards.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RamFanEsq View Post
                        Even AP needs blockers. Before he was hurt, he had 31 carries for 50 yards.
                        I guess, but he's 31 years old now. I've seen a lot of plays from other RB's where they have 1 on 1 with a defender in the backfield and they still somehow gain multiple yards. I really hope Todd gets back to elite status, but this year has been rough. You can tell it's really affecting him even in his interviews, he sounds miserable.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RamFanEsq View Post
                          DeMarco Murray was brought up in this thread, and I think his history supports the notion that Gurley should not necessarily shoulder the blame for his poor numbers.

                          Murray had 1,800+ yards/4.7 ypc for the Cowboys in 2014.

                          He then went to the Eagles and, with a different OL and offensive system, struggled with 700 yards/3.6 ypc.

                          Now, with the Titans, he has over 1,000 yards and a 4.6 ypc.

                          Clearly, OL and offensive system can make a HUGE difference in a RB's numbers.
                          But...

                          Gurley has basically the same OL personnel as last year except Garrett Reynolds.

                          Same OC.

                          Same offensive system.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RockinRam View Post

                            But...

                            Gurley has basically the same OL personnel as last year except Garrett Reynolds.

                            Same OC.

                            Same offensive system.
                            This is also true, but Reynolds was far and away our best run blocker, and just because we have the same OL doesn't mean they haven't regressed. I think both are definitely to blame. Our OL is terrible, and would minimize the impact of whatever RB we had, but Gurley is not doing himself any favours either by losing his vision, his tackle breaking ability, and his ability to get to the 2nd level.

                            Just a complete mess right now.

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                            • #29
                              Yeah as really Gurley is not the only problem. But the Rams situation people had so much promise and potential for the team. Will take time. But Jeff Fisher's window is smaller by the second!
                              Carolina Panthers @ Denver Broncos 2/7/2016 CBS 6:30PM EST Santa Clara CA!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by sosa39rams View Post

                                This is also true, but Reynolds was far and away our best run blocker, and just because we have the same OL doesn't mean they haven't regressed. I think both are definitely to blame. Our OL is terrible, and would minimize the impact of whatever RB we had, but Gurley is not doing himself any favours either by losing his vision, his tackle breaking ability, and his ability to get to the 2nd level.

                                Just a complete mess right now.
                                I definitely think we miss Reynolds a lot more than we originally thought we would. But as you said earlier in the thread, Gurley isn't the best creator, which I agree with. I think he's a great runner when he has room to work with, but he's not one of those guys that makes something from nothing.

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                                • MauiRam
                                  Todd Gurley could be Los Angeles’ next big star 
                                  by MauiRam
                                  By Rich Hammond

                                  OXNARD >> If, as the saying goes, stars are made, not born, what about those who are relocated?

                                  Todd Gurley is poised to be the next big thing in Southern California sports. The Rams running back still might go unrecognized walking down local streets, particularly when his trademark shoulder-length dreadlocks are pulled back, but given his recent face time on national TV, that seems certain to change.

                                  “Carl’s Jr.,” teammate Benny Cunningham said with a wry grin after a recent practice. “That’s his new nickname. You should call him that. He will like that.”

                                  Gurley has received copious good-natured ribbing for his role as as a burger-pitcher. In the commercial, Gurley — who speaks only a few words — is greeted by an agent and selfie-taking admirers as he coolly strolls through an office while wearing a hat with a generic “L.A.’’ logo.

                                  “Welcome to California, Todd Gurley,” shouts the agent, played by actor/comedian Jay Mohr.

                                  And welcome, perhaps, to a void that needs to be filled, that of major Southern California sports icon.

                                  Kobe Bryant has retired after an iconic 20-year career with the Lakers. Clayton Kershaw arguably is the best pitcher in baseball, but many viewers can’t even watch Dodger games. The Angels’ Mike Trout is highly marketable but seems reticent to display charisma in a public way. The top players for the Kings and Ducks are more likely to pitch products in Canada.

                                  Chris Paul is a contender, but at best he’s a very good player on a good Clippers team, and that franchise still is attempting to dribble out of the Lakers’ shadow.

                                  The throne has been vacated, and Gurley can fill it. He’s telegenic, intelligent, community-minded and is coming off a 2015 rookie season in which he rushed for the third-most yards in the NFL (1,106).

                                  It also doesn’t hurt that Gurley is represented by Roc Nation Sports, the agency founded by music star Shawn “Jay-Z” Carter.

                                  “The region is looking for someone to embrace,” said David Carter, Executive Director of USC’s Sports Business Institute, “and not only because football is back but because Kobe Bryant’s presence will be diminished. And as long as the Dodgers struggle to get their bearings on TV, their stars will not have as constant a light shone on them. All of this makes his timing ideal.”

                                  There’s only one question: Is this market ready to accept Gurley as a hometown hero? As of now, three months before the start of the NFL season, Gurley remains an outsider, and something of a quiet one.

                                  Bryant arrived as a teenager and grew up here. Shaquille O’Neal and Manny Ramirez were imported, but announced their arrivals with boisterous enthusiasm. Gurley? He’s been placed gently on Southern California’s porch like a FedEx package from St. Louis. The locals are just beginning to unwrap him.

                                  It’s a...
                                  -06-12-2016, 02:54 PM
                                • Nick
                                  So, I guess that Gurley kid is pretty good...
                                  by Nick
                                  433 rushing yards on 68 attempts for a 6.36 average over the last three games, Rams 2-1 in that span.


                                  It's still early, but the Rams may have found their response to the question posed earlier this year regarding the last time they hit a home run on an offensive draft pick.
                                  -10-25-2015, 02:46 PM
                                • r8rh8rmike
                                  Fassel On Gurley Struggling With Confidence
                                  by r8rh8rmike
                                  Here is what Fassel said when asked about Gurley's confidence level:...
                                  -12-31-2016, 09:00 AM
                                • supachump
                                  You better work Gurley despite whatever is going on with him physically.
                                  by supachump
                                  It is becoming obvious that the idea that Gurley should be used sparingly so that he has the ability to play deep into the playoff is not the most well thought out. Plain and simple, if we don't use Gurley more NOW, we won't even be in the playoffs. The Seahawks and 49'ers are both playing well. And the Rams? The defense is not looking great and McVay's offense has been exposed. Until the coach figures this out, the answer is working Gurley. HE NEEDS TO BE IN THERE.

                                  Gurley is the short term answer until McVay comes up with a counter to the counter. Gurley may be our only chance of even making it to the post season....
                                  -10-04-2019, 11:40 AM
                                • Nick
                                  Where in the World is Todd Gurley?
                                  by Nick
                                  Forgive my weak attempt at a Carmen Sandiego reference, but I think the question needs to be asked again and again until we have an answer.

                                  Through the regular season, Gurley averaged 18.2 rushes per game and four receptions per game. In the playoffs, he rushed the ball ten times a game on average and caught four passes in three contests.

                                  This offense is built through Gurley. The strength of the running game is what makes play action so effective. Finding ways to get the ball in Gurley's hands should be priority number one for anyone making decisions about this offense, yet it seems like after his injury, and more specifically after the Dallas playoff win, Gurley just disappeared from the gameplan.

                                  There are some people across the internet - I know because I've seen the responses in the Twitter feeds of those who cover the Rams - who are abandoning ship on Gurley. I think it's way too soon for that kind of overreaction. But it really does make you wonder, in the biggest game of his career, why Sean McVay didn't do more to make Gurley a focal point of the gameplan.

                                  The Rams insist he's completely healthy, and Gurley does as well. I wouldn't be surprised, though, to find out in a couple of weeks that he had some nagging injury that needs cleaned up over the offseason. Still, it would be rather baffling if that's the case after so much insistence to the contrary.

                                  It kind of makes me wonder if there's something else going on behind the scenes, some kind of personal issue that Gurley is going through and the Rams have been trying to help him by easing his workload or not putting too much on his plate. I have no evidence or anything to base this off of, aside from just the mere speculation that will occur when someone who normally is so heavily part of a gameplan gets left behind so strangely.

                                  Either way, the Rams need to spend this offseason looking in the mirror and figuring out why, when all the chips were on the table, they kept their stud workhorse on the sidelines as much as they did. Maybe Gurley just needs an offseason away from football to get back to his normal self or to recover from whatever ails him. Let's hope that's the case, and we're not looking at the symptoms of a bigger problem here, either for Gurley or McVay....
                                  -02-04-2019, 05:04 AM
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