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  • RFE's Post-Draft Rams Roster Breakdown

    Here is my breakdown of the roster after the draft by position (number of players likely to be on 53 man roster in parenthesis).

    Quarterbacks (2-3)

    Locks: Jared Goff, Sean Mannion
    Likely: Aaron Murray

    I think the QBs who will be on the roster are already signed. The only question is whether the Rams will keep 2 or 3 QBs on the roster.

    Running Back/Fullback (4-6)

    Locks: Todd Gurley, Lance Dunbar
    Likely: Malcolm Brown, Sam Rogers

    Aaron Green is the incumbent with the inside track to a roster spot, but UFA Justin Davis may have a shot as well.

    Wide Receiver (5-6)

    Locks: Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds
    Likely: Tavon Austin, Pharoh Cooper

    I considered listing Austin and Cooper as “locks,” but the fact that the new regime has signed one and drafted two WRs makes me think that perhaps they are not all that high on the incumbents. That said, unless a trade can be worked out for Austin, he'’ll definitely be on the roster, and I’'d be very surprised if Cooper did not ultimately make it (particularly given the fact that he might be our best kickoff returner with Benny Cunningham gone). If there is a sixth spot, I’d say that Mike Thomas has the best chance, followed by Bradley Marquez and Nelson Spruce.

    Tight End (2-4)

    Locks: Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett
    Likely: Temmarick Hemmingway

    Not a lot of uncertainty here.

    Offensive Line (8-9)

    Locks: Andrew Whitworth, Rodger Saffold, John Sullivan, Rob Havenstein, Greg Robinson
    Likely: n/a

    Robinson is a lock only because of his contract. I’m not certain he’ll be a starter. I don'’t have any in the “likely” category because I don’t see any presumptive favorites among players like Cody Wichmann, Jamon Brown and Andrew Donnal. I also think there is a significant likelihood that the Rams will add a veteran FA or two before the season starts.

    Defensive Line (6-7)

    Locks: Aaron Donald, Michael Brockers, Dominique Easley
    Likely: Tyrunn Walker, Tanzel Smart, Ethan Westbrooks

    I think the Rams are fairly well set here. There may be some camp battles, but these six should all be there on opening day.

    Linebacker (6-8)

    Locks: Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Alec Ogletree
    Likely: Mark Barron, Samson Ekuban, Ejuan Price, Josh Forrest

    I could be 100% wrong, but I still think Barron is a misfit in this defense, and could be a guy the Rams might offer in a trade. Either way, my list is short on ILBs, so the Rams could look to add some veteran depth there.

    Defensive Backs (7-9)

    Locks: Trumaine Johnson, Kayvon Webster, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Mo Alexander, Lamarcus Joyner, John Johnson
    Likely: E.J. Gaines, Cody Davis

    I think the Rams have enough for now. Given that Johnson, Alexander and Joyner are scheduled to be FAs in 2018, I think the Rams really want guys like Webster, Robey-Coleman and Johnson to succeed.

    Special Teams (3)

    Locks: Johnny Hekker, Greg Zuerlein, Jacob McQuaid
    Likely: n/a

    This trio isn’t going anywhere.

    So I’'m counting 29 locks for the roster, and 15 players who are likely to make it.

    That leaves 9 entirely open spots for training camp.
    Last edited by AvengerRam; -05-03-2017, 10:00 AM.

  • #2
    Cory Harkey will make the team, he had a very good year 2015. A lot of players dropped off last year. He's a far better blocker then Hemmingway. Just my two cents.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Rambos View Post
      Cory Harkey will make the team, he had a very good year 2015. A lot of players dropped off last year. He's a far better blocker then Hemmingway. Just my two cents.
      That's a fair point. Harkey and Hemmingway could, perhaps, be co-"likely" TEs.

      Picking up on a point made in another thread, I think one could also consider Bradley Marquez as a possible "likely" under the Special Teams category, even if he's not one of the top 6 WRs.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RamFanEsq View Post

        That's a fair point. Harkey and Hemmingway could, perhaps, be co-"likely" TEs.

        Picking up on a point made in another thread, I think one could also consider Bradley Marquez as a possible "likely" under the Special Teams category, even if he's not one of the top 6 WRs.
        I'd look at the receivers like this with your "Lock" and "Likely" as follows... Locks, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds
        Tavon Austin and Pharoh Cooper. The rest are all Likely to grab the one or two spots. I think Bradley Marquez and Spruce will have to fight for it and if they both play well enough to make a case to keep seven, that could happen. I'd be shocked to see the Rams trade Tavon this year and have only one proven receiver. Next year he's not a huge cap hit maybe they move on if he can't excel in McVay offense. I'm hoping we see tavon catch the ball 25-35 yards down field and more then a few even deeper. Use his speed to stretch the field someone has to run with him at minimum. Gonna be fun to see how it shakes out.

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        • #5
          Speaking of "co-likely's", I'd say the Rams' pickup of Purcell today puts the veteran nose tackle backup spot as a major battle between him and Tyrunn in training camp. I think what that does, is it actually takes Tyrunn out of the likely spot. I believe one of them will stick, but neither are now likely. More competition, the better.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KoaKoi View Post
            Speaking of "co-likely's", I'd say the Rams' pickup of Purcell today puts the veteran nose tackle backup spot as a major battle between him and Tyrunn in training camp. I think what that does, is it actually takes Tyrunn out of the likely spot. I believe one of them will stick, but neither are now likely. More competition, the better.
            If the Rams keep only 6, I'd say that those two are in for a battle (I'd also say that Ethan Westbrooks really needs to earn his spot). They could keep 7 DL, though, which could leave room for both of them to find a role.

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            • #7
              Now that Tavon is going to miss OTAs because of wrist surgery, those other WRs will certainly be given plenty of snaps to make an impression.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RamFanEsq View Post

                If the Rams keep only 6, I'd say that those two are in for a battle (I'd also say that Ethan Westbrooks really needs to earn his spot). They could keep 7 DL, though, which could leave room for both of them to find a role.
                I agree. Westbrook might be googling tattoo removal after training camp

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Azul e Oro View Post
                  Now that Tavon is going to miss OTAs because of wrist surgery, those other WRs will certainly be given plenty of snaps to make an impression.
                  Definitely. I think that it could also be an opportunity for Pharoh Cooper to show his ability to do run some the gadget plays (reverses, bubble screens, etc.) that Tavon has been running.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RamFanEsq View Post

                    Definitely. I think that it could also be an opportunity for Pharoh Cooper to show his ability to do run some the gadget plays (reverses, bubble screens, etc.) that Tavon has been running.
                    I'd go even further & say I'd really like to see TA focused on being a WR when he returns. By all means, use him as a decoy on the occasional reverse, but the hope of the odd homerun punt return & watching him take a handoff like a Hobbit running into an army of Orcs isn't worth it, compared to making him a legit threat downfield now that we may have some guys who will actually have to be respected by a defense while consistently running precise well-designed routes & having the hands to earn The Goffling's trust.

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                    • #11
                      I think some of these battles for roster spots will settle them selves as sadly last year we had guys not make it out of the preseason games. If that happens as likely it may then things take care of themselves. For instance Marquez and Spruce both got hurt and are possiable targets again as they are not powerfully built guys and Marquez especially on small side. Just one example... Also we have a new coaching staff will be interesting to see who they target as the top guys at each position... You would think they will be leaning on the guys they brought in and drafted making the team more about their guys not the previous regime's. etc. Seen some mention Harkey I was really high on him till last season, this whole team whiffed on blocks regularly I would not bank on Harks making the team looks like we are leaning more towards the FB position and less on the move tight end like Hark. Again just a observation...
                      Last edited by Randart; -05-05-2017, 05:58 PM.

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                      • Nick
                        From 90 to 53, here’s the math on the Rams’ roster situation
                        by Nick
                        From 90 to 53, here’s the math on the Rams’ roster situation
                        By RICH HAMMOND | [email protected] | Orange County Register
                        PUBLISHED: August 25, 2017 at 6:13 pm | UPDATED: August 25, 2017 at 6:15 pm

                        The Rams and Chargers brawled three times when the teams practiced together this month, but when they meet in Saturday’s preseason game at the Coliseum, the true battle for the Rams will be internal.

                        This is the third of four preseason games, and at the conclusion, the Rams’ roster will be cut from 90 to its season-opening limit of 53. Next week’s game, though, is window dressing, the very definition of “exhibition.” For players on the roster bubble, Saturday’s game could be the last chance to shine.

                        “It just seems like I’ve been a part of teams every single year,” Coach Sean McVay said, “where a few guys you never expect to, they end up finding a way to make a contribution and give themselves some value, whether that be through special teams, or showing up on offense or defense.”

                        So who is off the bubble? Only McVay and Rams executives know, but here’s a reasonable guess:

                        Quarterbacks Jared Goff and Sean Mannion are safe, as are running backs Todd Gurley and Malcolm Brown, receivers Robert Woods, Sammy Watkins, Cooper Kupp, Pharoh Cooper and Tavon Austin, tight ends Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett and Temarrick Hemingway, and offensive linemen Andrew Whitworth, Rob Havenstein, Cody Wichmann, Rodger Saffold, Jamon Brown and John Sullivan.

                        On defense, linemen Michael Brockers, Ethan Westbrooks, Matt Longacre, Tanzel Smart and Louis Trinca-Pasat seem set, as do linebackers Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Alec Ogletree, Mark Barron, Ejuan Price and Samson Ebukam, and defensive backs Trumaine Johnson, Mike Jordan, Lamarcus Joyner, Kayvon Webster, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Mo Alexander and Cody Davis.

                        Finally, kicker Greg Zuerlein, punter Johnny Hekker and long snapper Jake McQuaide are locks.

                        That’s 39 players. Recent playing time indicates that fullback Sam Rogers, receiver Josh Reynolds, offensive linemen Jake Eldrenkamp and Darrell Williams, defensive linemen Mike Purcell, linebacker Josh Forrest and defensive backs John Johnson and Marqui Christian also will make the cut.

                        Then there’s Aaron Donald, who presumably will end his holdout one way or another and become No. 48. Remember also that receiver Mike Thomas and Troy Hill will be suspended for the start of the season and running back Lance Dunbar will start on the injured list, meaning none of them will occupy a roster spot.

                        That leaves perhaps five spots, and how will they be broken down?

                        The Rams figure to keep either running back Justin Davis or Aaron Green, and one of three offensive linemen: Austin Blythe, Andrew Donnal (whose current injury status makes this murky) and Pace Murphy.

                        Four linebackers — Nic Grigsby, Bryce Hager, Cory Littleton...
                        -08-25-2017, 06:23 PM
                      • AvengerRam
                        How many players are "locks" for the Final 53?
                        by AvengerRam
                        Who is a "lock" to make the final 53:

                        Here's my count:

                        Veterans (27)
                        Jared Goff
                        Sean Mannion
                        Todd Gurley
                        Andrew Whitworth
                        Rob Havenstein
                        John Sullivan
                        Jamon Brown
                        Rodger Saffold
                        Brandin Cooks
                        Robert Woods
                        Cooper Kupp
                        Pharoh Cooper
                        Josh Reynolds
                        Gerald Everett
                        Tyler Higbee
                        Michael Brockers
                        Ndamukong Suh
                        Aaron Donald
                        Samson Ebukam
                        Corey Littleton
                        Marcus Peters
                        Aqib Talib
                        Nickell Robey-Coleman
                        John Johnson
                        Lamarcus Joyner
                        Johnny Hekker
                        Jake McQuaide

                        Rookies (5)
                        Joe Noteboom
                        Brian Allen
                        John Franklin-Myers
                        Micah Kiser
                        Ogbonnia Okoronkwo

                        So that's 32 guys who I think are absolute locks.

                        I've left out the following players who I are locks provided that they are recovered from previous injuries:

                        Mark Barron
                        Matt Longacre
                        Dominique Easley
                        Sam Shields
                        Greg Zuerlein

                        If they're healthy, that takes the number to 37.

                        The next group are "near-locks," who are players that have the inside track to a roster spot:

                        Austin Blythe
                        Malcolm Brown
                        Michael Thomas
                        Ethan Westbrooks
                        Morgan Fox
                        Bryce Hager
                        Ramik Wilson
                        Troy Hill
                        Marquis Christian
                        Blake Countess

                        That gets you to 47.

                        So... if I'm right and all of these guys make the team, that leaves only 6 roster spots (not counting practice squad) for the remaining prospects to fight over.

                        My current favorites are:

                        Temmarick Hemmingway
                        Darrell Williams
                        John Kelly
                        Tanzel Smart
                        Ejuan Price
                        Justin Lawler...
                        -05-01-2018, 01:44 PM
                      • Nick
                        ESPN's Alden Gonzalez makes final 53-man roster projection
                        by Nick
                        Rams' 53-man roster includes 17 new players
                        10:00 PM ET
                        Alden Gonzalez
                        ESPN Staff Writer

                        The Los Angeles Rams must cut their roster to 53 by 4 p.m. ET Saturday, Sept. 2. Here's a final 53-man roster projection:

                        QUARTERBACKS (2): Jared Goff, Sean Mannion
                        I went back and forth on this, but ultimately opted not to put Dan Orlovsky on the roster. Goff, the starter, and Mannion, his backup, are both young. Orlovsky has a ton of experience, with a dozen years as mainly an NFL backup. But he hasn't shown much this preseason, and the Rams are going to ride their young quarterbacks throughout the year no matter what. I have them using that roster spot elsewhere.

                        RUNNING BACKS (4): Malcolm Brown, Justin Davis, Aaron Green, Todd Gurley
                        Asked earlier this week about the running back room getting smaller after final cuts, Gurley said, "I hope it doesn't get any smaller than it is now. There's only about three or four guys in there." The Rams signed Lance Dunbar over the offseason with hopes that he can be their change-of-pace back, but a pre-existing knee injury has kept him from practicing. Brown has established himself as Gurley's backup. Davis, an undrafted rookie out of USC, has looked good in space, though he has had fumbling issues.

                        FULLBACKS (1): Sam Rogers
                        The Rams drafted Rogers out of Virginia Tech in the sixth round this year. He's a 5-foot-10, 235-pound ball of fire who can block, run the ball and catch passes. It'll be interesting to see if Rams coach Sean McVay finds some type of role for Rogers in this offense. He drafted him for a reason.

                        WIDE RECEIVERS (6): Tavon Austin, Pharoh Cooper, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds, Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods
                        The Watkins acquisition has Nelson Spruce, in my mind, as the odd man out. He's a local product and a fan favorite, and he shined in last year's preseason opener against the Dallas Cowboys. But Spruce barely got on the field after that last season and hasn't really stood out this preseason. The Rams are a lot more talented at receiver now. Paul McRoberts and Shakeir Ryan, who has been returning punts, were also tough cuts here.

                        TIGHT ENDS (3): Gerald Everett, Cory Harkey, Tyler Higbee
                        Temarrick Hemingway suffered a fractured fibula during Saturday's preseason game against the Los Angeles Chargers, an injury that could prompt him to miss the entire season. That suddenly opens up a role for Harkey, a sixth-year player, to serve as the third tight end. Harkey doesn't bring Hemingway's skills and athleticism in the passing game, but he's a solid blocker who McVay considers reliable as a receiver. Said Harkey: "I'm here to do whatever I need to do to help the team win, and that's my attitude my whole career."

                        OFFENSIVE LINE (9): Austin Blythe, Jamon Brown, Andrew Donnal, Rob Havenstein, Rodger Saffold, John Sullivan, Cody Wichmann, Andrew Whitworth, Darrell...
                        -08-31-2017, 07:25 PM
                      • AvengerRam
                        Who is part of the core for 2018?
                        by AvengerRam
                        In my mind, the core consists of starters and key rotation players who (1) are signed through 2018, (2) are not guys I believe might need to be restructured, (3) are not suffering from a potentially lingering injury, and (4) are not guys I believe need to be upgraded.

                        These 17 players are clearly part of the core:

                        QB Jared Goff
                        RB Todd Gurley
                        WR Robert Woods
                        WR Cooper Kupp
                        TE Gerald Everett
                        OT Andrew Whitworth
                        OG Rodger Saffold
                        OG Jamon Brown
                        OT Rob Havenstein
                        DL Michael Brockers
                        DL Aaron Donald
                        ILB Alec Ogletree
                        SS John Johnson
                        K Greg Zuerlein
                        P Johnny Hekker
                        KR/PR Pharoh Cooper
                        LB/ST Cory Littleton

                        Brown and Havenstein were close calls, but I think they will return. Kayvon Webster was left off the list solely for health reasons. Mark Barron and Robert Quinn were left off due to their contracts, though both could potentially be retained on their current deals. Tyler Higbee could perhaps be part of this list, though I'm hoping Gerald Everett becomes the starter and Higbee becomes the second TE.

                        Some key backups you also could add to the list are Austin Blythe, Josh Reynolds, Tanzel Smart, Samson Ebukam and Malcolm Brown.

                        I think that's a strong core.

                        Now... how do we make it even stronger?
                        -01-08-2018, 09:29 AM
                      • AvengerRam
                        Is the purge complete?
                        by AvengerRam
                        Any time a new HC takes over, there is potential for a purge of players from the old regime who are viewed as bad fits for the new system.

                        We've seen it this offseason.

                        Kenny Britt
                        Lance Kendricks
                        Tim Barnes
                        Brian Quick
                        Greg Robinson
                        William Hayes
                        Eugene Sims

                        Is the purge complete, or are there other holdovers who should be concerned?

                        Here are a few who come to mind...

                        Tavon Austin, Pharoh Cooper and Mike Thomas
                        The new regime obtained Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp and Josh Reynolds. Those are the guys they think can fit in the McVay offense. While I'm sure that the holdovers will have ample opportunities (Austin in particular) to carve out their own roles, I could see a scenario where the WR position starts to look like an "out with the old, in with the new" situation.

                        Mark Barron
                        The Rams seem committed to trying Barron at the ILB spot and, hopefully, it will work. Still, it seems that there should be some concern that he could be a square peg in this defense.

                        E.J. Gaines
                        Gaines will have to fight off newcomers Kayvon Webster and Nickell Robey-Coleman to stay among the Rams' top 3 CBs.

                        Lamarcus Joyner
                        Joyner has been penciled in as the starting FS. I believe he will succeed there, as he did well at that spot at FSU. That said, his window is small, as he will be a UFA after this year, and the Rams drafted a potential replacement in John Johnson.
                        -06-16-2017, 01:06 PM
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