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    I hate to say it, and i would LOVE to be wrong, but i have a bad feeling about this week's game on the road vs. dallas. I watched Dallas play arizona tonight (on the road) and they are a really good well rounded team that runs the ball very well, rushes the passer effectively, and doesnt turn it over much (tonight, not at all). Of course, they got blown out last week vs denver, who lost this week to buffalo, so who knows? We better be ready to stop the run about 1000x better than we have in the last two weeks because if we don't it's going to be a very long day. On the offensive side, we absolutely have to find a way to establish some kind of running game to keep goff out of 3rd and long all the time. Arizona's offensive line is a problem and they had two starters out tonight. Dallas was killing Palmer in the second half while rushing three guys and putting 6 db's in the game. We are going to have to give Havenstein help with Lawrence. This game is one of those games on the schedule with a ton of upside, but i am not particularly optimistic. By the way, we are 7 point underdogs. We are all alone in first place and regardless of what happens on the road at Dallas, if we can beat Seattle the following week at home i think all of us have to say at that point that we are dramatically improved and off to a competitive start. This is the part of the schedule where if we want to have a legitimate season above .500 we really can't be losing three in a row to dallas, seattle and jacksonville (on the road, which is not an easy game at all).

    Please tell me i am being overly pessimistic about this coming week vs. dallas, i would love to hear some other views.

    Ramming speed to all

    general counsel

  • #2
    Only saw the last 4 minutes of the game and some highlights from earlier. So I can't comment on much...but I got a feeling this will be another shoot out barring a defensive surprise by the Rams.

    Until the defense starts to smooth out I think it's gonna be a bunch of NFL barn burners, not like against SF but maybe consisted high 20s and 30s, winning or losing by a touchdown or less.

    Just a feeling.

    Plus I feel the cowboys are more beatable now than what I thought they were gonna be before the season started. And of course the Rams offense surpassed my expectations greatly too, and the defense...not so much lol.

    McVay has shown to make adjustments during the games, not just the second half so I have confidence something will work, if not from the get go.

    But certainly, the defense has to stop the run, they won't be able to survive consistent 100+ yard games every week imo. And the cowboys balanced attack doesn't help so that secondary is gonna really have to step up as well...

    But I feel a win is certainly more possible now than before the season started, absolutely.

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    • #3
      GC I feel many of the same Trepedations as you do for this Dallas game, road games are all tough and this should be no exception to that rule of thumb! I believe our offense should keep us in the game but we will need some timely stops to pull out a victory or at least that is how I see the game!

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      • #4
        Sorry, I don't think you're being overly pessimistic. I think you're being grounded and rational, but I don't think all hope is lost. Dallas is on a short week, after all.

        I think Phillips' D is a bend don't break type of scheme with resilient pass rushing proclivities. If the opposing team has to pass in order to stay in the game, they'll excel. If the opposing team can ground and pound though, it's prone to bend right into a loss unless the offense keeps them in the game. The offense kept them in the game against the ******** and the Redskins. As a result, Rams won one and lost one against those two good rushing teams.

        As for Dallas, I fear the 'boys will definitely leave some scorch marks against our beloved defense. But as AV said in his Defense in Dallas post, a lot will be on display for Rams D here. If the guys can fix some of their assignments, maybe Dallas' run game while effective, won't blow the barn door down. Setting the edge's for example to contain Prescott will be crucial. Combine that with Goff executing well and a well rounded offense.... maybe some great Hekker punts...another round of Gurley like on TNF.... all is not lost. I believe the 7 point line is accurate, but games aren't won on paper... they need to be played. If Goff and Gurley excel, there's sizeable hope against a team on a monday night victory hangover....

        I'm looking forward to it!



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        • #5
          I wouldn't underestimate the potential impact of the fact that the Rams will have 9 days between games 3 and 4, while the Cowboys will only have 5. If the Rams can keep it tight for three quarters, they may have a real advantage in the final 15 minutes.

          As far as the match-up goes, I'll give my full thoughts after we get some idea of whether Watkins, Sullivan and Webster are good to go.

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          • #6
            Having watched the cowpoke game I think the main reason the cards lost was down to penalties. Both teams matched up well. Not sure what this means to our Rams but we better be ready to play when we meet both these teams.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RamDez View Post
              Having watched the cowpoke game I think the main reason the cards lost was down to penalties. Both teams matched up well. Not sure what this means to our Rams but we better be ready to play when we meet both these teams.
              I agree with you Dez. Penalties played a huge factor, including the holding call that took away a Cardinals TD that would have made the score 14-0 early in the second. That nullified TD changed the game.

              It'll be an uphill battle to beat Dallas, but I certainly wouldn't be shocked to see the Rams take it too them and pull out a victory. They'll need to clean up the penalties, get some players back from injury, show some improvement on D, and hold on to the ball. If they can do that, they can win.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post

                I agree with you Dez. Penalties played a huge factor, including the holding call that took away a Cardinals TD that would have made the score 14-0 early in the second. That nullified TD changed the game.

                It'll be an uphill battle to beat Dallas, but I certainly wouldn't be shocked to see the Rams take it too them and pull out a victory. They'll need to clean up the penalties, get some players back from injury, show some improvement on D, and hold on to the ball. If they can do that, they can win.
                Now THATS what Am talking about

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                • #9
                  It's hard to imagine the Cowboys and Zeke not running all over this defense the way it's played the last two weeks. However, the Cowboys have been held to under 100 rushing yards in their last two games, and they certainly look beatable. Whether or not the Rams can do it remains to be seen. Hopefully with all the time between a Thursday game and this Sunday's game, Wade has developed some answers on defense and McVay is ready to keep the engine running on offense.

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                  • #10
                    One positive note, McVay played them twice a year so he may have a little insight on how to exploit their defense. It didn't help in the Washington game that much, but the flip side to that game was Washington's staff was familiar with his offensive calls as well. Grasping at straws a little but with 10 days to prepare in McVay I trust.

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                    • #11
                      Will be a tough test for sure- the toughest yet for the McVay Rams. Going on the road to play a team with great fan support, two young talents at the QB and RB positions and an overall solid football club. Not real hopeful, but don't have the sense of dread I've had in years past where we knew winning a game like this would be a pipe dream. The defense has to give us a whole lot more than it has for us to have a shot.

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                      • #12
                        I watched the Cowboys/Cards game... but I also watched the Cards/Colts game

                        I am not surprised the Cowboys did what they did to the Cards...from the beginning of the season I been saying there is something off with the Cards specifically C. Palmer. I'd like to say its the Cards OL that's the issue and yes its a large part of it of it, but Palmer just doesn't seem to be his consistent self...

                        This is what I saw in the Cowboys/Cards game:

                        Its a tale of two cities...1st quarter was a game where the Cards dictated both on offense and defense...2nd Quarter the game devolved into a stalemate... 3rd/4th quarter was all Dallas' game. In the 1st quarter AZ was pretty much moving the ball at will and had well schemed their defense against Dallas; 2nd quarter Dallas made adjustments on both defense and offense and shutdown AZ.

                        Seriously with the Cards Dallas was using 3 man fronts and where getting sacks on Palmer.... 5 on 3 and still they where able to either sack Palmer or put pressure on him..is the Cowboy's DL that good (all of them an A. Donald?). That was the difference in a lot of snaps when the Cards where on offense--facing 8 defenders playing zone. So where was the Cards ground game? NO CLUE.

                        Did the Cowboys do anything great on offense...not really. Remember when Kaepernick/Wilson had as part of their play book the read option? Its been awhile since the Rams faced the Read option but certainly the Rams have seen it.

                        At the beginning of the season I predicted the Rams would defeat the Cowboys and win the first match up with the Cards. What the Rams have to do is worry about the Cowboys ground game and respect the Cowboys passing as well as contain Dak. If you think of it the Cowboys are the Squawks since they are attempting to do the same thing! Run the ball to open the pass with bootlegs as well as pay solid defense. At the beginning of the season, I had no idea the Rams could play offense and score points and thought a win over Dallas would be a slugfest--just as I thought the Rams/49whiner game would be trench warfare where I was dead wrong

                        ....thus far I have been dead wrong about the Rams offense and glad of it to be wrong. Its very possible the Rams can put a beat down on the Cowboys if the Rams can get 17+ early advantage which more or less puts the ball in Dak's hands and throw the ball in the teeth of the Ram's defense
                        Last edited by Ram Dragoon; -09-26-2017, 06:03 PM.

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                        • #13
                          The Rams are 8 point dogs to open. It will be interesting to see how that changes leading up to game time.

                          Havenstein and Brown need to be ready. I would imagine that's where the Cowboys are going to be coming at Goff from. If they can effectively protect Goff I do feel good about the Rams passing game to go with the Cowboys 4 new starters in the Cowboys defensive back field.
                          :helmet:

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post

                            I agree with you Dez. Penalties played a huge factor, including the holding call that took away a Cardinals TD that would have made the score 14-0 early in the second. That nullified TD changed the game.

                            It'll be an uphill battle to beat Dallas, but I certainly wouldn't be shocked to see the Rams take it too them and pull out a victory. They'll need to clean up the penalties, get some players back from injury, show some improvement on D, and hold on to the ball. If they can do that, they can win.
                            I admire Mike's persistent optimism. And I think we should allow ourselves to indulge in a little optimism at this juncture. From what I see, our team is vastly improved on offense, with a bright future, and is giving us the best reasons we've had to watch it play in quite a few seasons. Sure, it's a great challenge to play Dallas in their stadium. But I know the Rams are capable of beating them. It's a matter of making it happen, and anything can happen in these crazy games, if the team brings the right energy and focus to it. The edge in recovery time could make a difference. So, while I really don't disagree with the points and concerns expressed in this thread, both about the Rams' weaknesses and Dallas' strengths, I do think GC is being too "glass half empty". Positive thoughts are in order, at this juncture. And who's to say they don't count for something. The way this league is, we could be in dire circumstances in a couple of weeks. So, let's take a moment to relish our good start. Sorry for being so sanctimonious. But for week 4, I am on the McVay bandwagon.
                            Last edited by Seacone; -09-26-2017, 08:36 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mh-i View Post
                              The Rams are 8 point dogs to open. It will be interesting to see how that changes leading up to game time.

                              Havenstein and Brown need to be ready. I would imagine that's where the Cowboys are going to be coming at Goff from. If they can effectively protect Goff I do feel good about the Rams passing game to go with the Cowboys 4 new starters in the Cowboys defensive back field.
                              Problem going after Goof... is there is this guy called Gurley who is now part of the passing game. If the Cowboys can get to Goff with just 3 like they did C. Palmer, sure it would work. But it looks like the Rams OL is night/day difference between them and the Cards...have to wait and see... the Rams are not built to be pass-happy like the cards and why likely Dallas dropped 8 so often in zone. Against the Rams coming with just 3 if they can't get to Goff means Gurley grinds out 150yards... Come with 5, and play cover zone means some poor CB has a Gurley coming at him of a sling pass...amazing how self preservation instincts kick in in the least opportune times

                              No I think Dallas will try a straight up defense against the Rams and attempt a ground & pound to victory

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                              • AvengerRam
                                The Cowboys game will tell us a lot more about the D than the Niners game did.
                                by AvengerRam
                                This is the week when Wade Phillips will have the chance to show why the Rams hired him.

                                In Week 1, the Rams' defense played very well, though it was clearly against a QB/team that was not ready for prime time.

                                Then, in Week 2, the defense's problems were exposed, particularly against the run.

                                After the Redskins game, the Rams had a short week, having to go to SF to play a Thursday night road game. I don't think that left much time for adjustments or corrective measures. Basically, the Rams had to just go out there and play.

                                Now, the Rams will get the benefit of a Thursday night game - a full week and one half to prepare. Phillips will have the time to coach up the D and make adjustments. Also, with the extra days off, hopefully the Rams will be fully healthy (Lamarcus Joyner, Kayvon Webster and possibly Michael Brockers being the primary concerns).

                                Dallas will provide a big test, as they have a strong OL, an elite RB, and an effective passing game. If the Rams come out of this long hiatus and show improvement on D against the Cowboys, that will be a good sign that the D can turn things around....
                                -09-25-2017, 08:27 AM
                              • general counsel
                                Rams vs dallas, keys to the game
                                by general counsel
                                Well, the Rams get dallas. All games generally get decided by turnovers and red zone conversions, but what is special about this upcoming playoff game in addition to those two always critical factors?

                                First, dallas just completely shut down the #1 rushing offense in the nfl this weekend against the chickens. Can we run the ball enough to take pressure off Goff and make play action effective?

                                Second, can we stop the run enough to force prescott to beat us rather than letting them pound elliott over and over on us?

                                Third, which team can do a better job protecting their qb and giving them time to throw?

                                Fourth, I hope Talib is ready to deal with Cooper. He is a key weapon for them and their offense improved dramatically after they acquired him.

                                Finally and critically, I really hope that Goff and McVay are ready to take what the defense gives them. Get the ball into gurley's hands in the passing game if need be and make sure that we are prepared to throw screens, slants and quick drops to get the ball out of Goff's hands so its not all 7 step drops.

                                Let's remember that dallas beat new orleans earlier this year on the road with a terrific defensive effort. It's the playoffs so you certainly can't expect any easy opponents. I think if we bring our A game we are going to win.

                                Ramming speed to all

                                general counsel
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                              • Schrodes
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                                by Schrodes
                                Hello Rams nation,

                                I have you guys picked to make a run at the division this year. I believe your offense will pull through barring injury because it does have a lot of talent. I hope the D can get it together. Sunday was not how i expected the Rams to come out playing this year, but week 1 is the most fluke week of the season. Dont worry about the Philthy game. They always get lucky once a year-see last year when they wore their throwback jerseys. Dallas will take care of them next week :P

                                On paper I think the Rams look nice and should be much more competitive in this division. The defense did not play well but I believe you guys have a solid front 7 (esp the D line) but the secondary lacks playmakers. BTW what is the injury update on Little? Anyways, the secondary looks vulnerable but if the O can get rolling and the front 7 plays well, this can be overcome. The Niners have QB issues, the Seahawks are all downhill if they have to rely on TJ Ducket and Julius Jones, and the Cardinals didnt look too much better than the Niners even though they won. I see a lot of people getting down on this team, but the Rams and Bills could be the biggest turnaround teams from 07. I absolutely hate the Giants and hope that your Rams can take them down next week. It would be good to get back to .500 by beating the Super Bowl champs. The Giants looked aweful as well but managed to pull out a victory over the struggling Redskins. A win next week could give the Rams the confidence they need.

                                The Rams have a tough schedule to open the season, but the second half looks much easier. If the Rams can get to 4-4 by the halfway point, I think they can make it to 10-6 and in the playoffs.

                                Thoughts?
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                              • renrawtruk
                                My thoughts after the game....
                                by renrawtruk
                                #1. I can only imagine Linehan at home watching us win the last 2 games. He must really be questioning his abilities to ever coach again at this point. Unlike many, I actually was rooting for him to do well and feel bad for the guy, but it's becoming clear he was keeping us down.

                                #2. Venturi must be calling the defensive game better than Haslett. I'm sure it's the same schemes' but as for when to blitz and anticipating what the offense will do, and calling the right defensive formation. I'm sure Haslett got away with it more in New Orleans when he had all that talent on defense, and his gambles paid off more than with our group that is more vulnerable to get burned.

                                #3. What the heck is going on with our CB's? They were blanketing the Cowboys receivers. I mean, how did we hold T.O. to like 2 catches for no yards??? I don't even think it had to do with getting more pressure from the front 4, they were just on them like glue all day.

                                #4. I still think we need better production from the QB position. To continue to beat good teams, we need to be able to throw for 300+ yards and 3-4 TD's. I realize that versus the cowboys our field position didn't require us to throw more than we did, but I'm concerned that I'm not sure we could be that productive if needed. This isn't to single out the QB, but also the playcalling, the protection, and the execution. I mean, Bulger has 3 TD's and 2 INT's, and we're in week 5. That's pretty sad. We can't keep expecting Josh Brown to bail us out when our offense can't get us past the opponents 40, or hope the defense gets us the ball in the opponents territory.

                                #5. The game vs. the Cardinals in 2 weeks just became the game of the year. I mean, after going 0-4, who knew we could still have a game with implications left?? We would have to win that game to even consider possibilities. I recall before the season, based on our schedule, it appeared that 3-5 would give us an outside chance to win the division, with all the inter-division games left, and us having played the entire NFC East already. (AZ still has to play G-Men, Eagles / Seattle still has Eagles, Redskins, Cowboys). New England game would be a bonus for us, but we would HAVE to beat AZ to get back in the mix.
                                -10-20-2008, 03:22 PM
                              • rNemesis
                                Having my doubts about Sunday's game vs Cowboys...
                                by rNemesis
                                ...and the season as a whole.

                                Lets face it. We can sit here and talk about what could've been, what should've been, and what else, but the reality is, we know where we're at right now and it is what it is. I, too, agree with the general consensus that " If it weren't for a play here or a dropped pass there, things would be MUCH different" It IS INDEED true. However, as mentioned, its reality, and I am a person that likes to face reality despite it hurting me ( and probably others as well) to say it or believe it. The Rams, so far this season, have disappointed all of us considerably this year. The horrible O-line play, the 82 drops ( that was a guess, I dont know the exact count ) the penalties, injuries, lack of OTA and bad coaching at times has led all of us to wonder just exactly where this team is really headed. And this is where I seriously doubt our ability to win a game this season. I'm not trying to be negative, but I just dont see how we will be able to fix all of our team's woes and just right the ship like a light switch. It doesn't work out that way and I would LOVE to be wrong on that one, but I think I'm right, as much as it hurts.

                                I see all kinds of post about Bradford, and let me tell you right now, I am NOT a supporter of getting rid of Bradford. He is the face of our franchise, our QB, he goes out there and plays his best despite of what everyone else is doing or saying, gives 100%, makes accurate throws, and plays well. He is the little that we have right now. I dont entertain stupid comments such as the thread titled, " Kiper says- trade Bradford and draft Luck"... Really? Are you smoking crack, Mel? If you indeed said that, you need to quit that job NOW. Seriously dude. The guy has done nothing but play as good as he can given the little he has and yet people want to dump him?? That is not even a topic that should be discussed. Last time I checked, the QB doesn't pass block, run block, cover receivers, or catch passes. Ridiculous.


                                Now, here are some reasons why I THINK we will not win a game this season. Maybe we WILL win one or two, but I DEFINITELY THINK that, if we DO win some games, then it will not be more than two:
                                • This offensive line has not proven that they are a reliable, consistent unit. Bradford is on his ass too long, and when he has time, it is shaky because he is not sure the line is going to hold for him.
                                • The receivers, although supposedly upgraded with MC and BL possibly lining up for the game this Sunday, have dropped too many passes to this point. Kendricks worries me because he can do everything except catch the dog gone ball, and Sims Walker is released for the same reason. Brandon Gibson is another guy that is at best a #4 possession guy. Hopefully the WR corps is a strength Sunday...
                                • The RUN D. Horrid. Who is Ryan Torain? How could he gash us for 135 yards on the ground? This unit has failed to deliver,
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