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  • Who is part of the core for 2018?

    In my mind, the core consists of starters and key rotation players who (1) are signed through 2018, (2) are not guys I believe might need to be restructured, (3) are not suffering from a potentially lingering injury, and (4) are not guys I believe need to be upgraded.

    These 17 players are clearly part of the core:

    QB Jared Goff
    RB Todd Gurley
    WR Robert Woods
    WR Cooper Kupp
    TE Gerald Everett
    OT Andrew Whitworth
    OG Rodger Saffold
    OG Jamon Brown
    OT Rob Havenstein
    DL Michael Brockers
    DL Aaron Donald
    ILB Alec Ogletree
    SS John Johnson
    K Greg Zuerlein
    P Johnny Hekker
    KR/PR Pharoh Cooper
    LB/ST Cory Littleton

    Brown and Havenstein were close calls, but I think they will return. Kayvon Webster was left off the list solely for health reasons. Mark Barron and Robert Quinn were left off due to their contracts, though both could potentially be retained on their current deals. Tyler Higbee could perhaps be part of this list, though I'm hoping Gerald Everett becomes the starter and Higbee becomes the second TE.

    Some key backups you also could add to the list are Austin Blythe, Josh Reynolds, Tanzel Smart, Samson Ebukam and Malcolm Brown.

    I think that's a strong core.

    Now... how do we make it even stronger?
    Last edited by AvengerRam; -01-08-2018, 09:29 PM.

  • #2
    List looks good to me, but please fix "Greg Whitworth" and make it Andrew. Still dry heave a little any time I think about "Greg"s on the O line.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MrOrange View Post
      List looks good to me, but please fix "Greg Whitworth" and make it Andrew. Still dry heave a little any time I think about "Greg"s on the O line.
      D’oh! Where did that come from?

      Fixed.

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      • #4
        The only concern I have with your list is the absence of any CB's other than your mention of Webster, who hopefully will recover. I feel Robey-Coleman deserves some love and TruJo, while controversial for salary reasons tied to performance issues could be a worthwhile signing at the right price. We do need to fix our backfield no question, but I would like to hold on to Lemarcus Joyner, again at a reasonable price.

        On the D-Line we have Domenique Easley hopefully recovered from his ACL tear.

        Go Rams!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mde8352gorams View Post
          The only concern I have with your list is the absence of any CB's other than your mention of Webster, who hopefully will recover. I feel Robey-Coleman deserves some love and TruJo, while controversial for salary reasons tied to performance issues could be a worthwhile signing at the right price. We do need to fix our backfield no question, but I would like to hold on to Lemarcus Joyner, again at a reasonable price.

          On the D-Line we have Domenique Easley hopefully recovered from his ACL tear.

          Go Rams!
          The "core" consists of players who are signed through 2018. TruJ, Robey-Coleman, Joyner and Easley are all free agents.

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          • #6
            Oversight on my part. I honestly thought NRC was signed to a 2-yr deal last year. I thought the same for Connor Barwin, but in his case I'm fine with that. The 3 DB's underscores what a priority it is for the Rams FO to address that situation. Hopefully Kevin Demoff will move quicker than his usual glacial pace.

            Go Rams!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mde8352gorams View Post
              Oversight on my part. I honestly thought NRC was signed to a 2-yr deal last year. I thought the same for Connor Barwin, but in his case I'm fine with that. The 3 DB's underscores what a priority it is for the Rams FO to address that situation. Hopefully Kevin Demoff will move quicker than his usual glacial pace.

              Go Rams!
              Exactly. Secondary is a huge issue this offseason. Throw in the fact that Joyner and Davis are both FA, it becomes downright scary.


              If you will allow me to go off topic a little bit......
              given Joyner's versatility (he did a lot better at safety than I thought he would), I think it's important Rams start there and lock him up. Keeping him as a veteran presence next to Johnny the John John Johnson will pay dividends. Davis should be cheap, is a great spec'l teams contributor, and played well when Joyner got hurt... I'd be ok if Rams get some more tread out of him. But my overall thought is, if the Rams can at least lock Joyner in... then it gives the Rams a possible option at cb, if say if a stellar safety prospect was located. But with Trujo and NRC not in contract, Rams will absolutely need some more help at cb. The couple mock drafts I've seen have them picking a cb at #23.

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              • AvengerRam
                How our line-up currently looks...
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                So how many holes do the Rams have? (players listed are returning/newly acquired starters/key rotation players) who are signed/tagged through 2018 (and are expected to be healthy at the start of 2018):

                QB: Jared Goff
                RB: Todd Gurley
                WR: Robert Woods
                WR: Cooper Kupp
                WR:
                TE: Tyler Higbee
                TE: Gerald Everett
                OT: Andrew Whitworth
                OG: Rodger Saffold
                C:
                OG: Jamon Brown
                OT: Rob Havenstein

                DE: Aaron Donald
                NT: Ethan Westbrooks
                DE: Michael Brockers
                OLB:
                ILB: Mark Barron
                ILB: Alec Ogletree
                OLB:
                CB: Marcus Peters
                CB:
                CB:
                SS: John Johnson
                FS: Lamarcus Joyner

                That's six holes.

                I feel pretty confident that three of them will be filled with re-signing FAs: C - John Sullivan, OLB - Conner Barwin and CB(3) - Nickell Robey-Coleman

                That leaves 3 spots, WR, OLB and CB in need of a new starter. You can also add to that list NT, where an upgrade is definitely needed, and possibly ILB, where many believe that Mark Barron could be released.

                One of the spots (probably CB or OLB) can and will be filled by the Rams' first round pick.

                The rest... well, maybe this is why you don't taste the food until its ready. Still a lot of ingredients being mixed.

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              • AvengerRam
                How many players are "locks" for the Final 53?
                by AvengerRam
                Who is a "lock" to make the final 53:

                Here's my count:

                Veterans (27)
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                Sean Mannion
                Todd Gurley
                Andrew Whitworth
                Rob Havenstein
                John Sullivan
                Jamon Brown
                Rodger Saffold
                Brandin Cooks
                Robert Woods
                Cooper Kupp
                Pharoh Cooper
                Josh Reynolds
                Gerald Everett
                Tyler Higbee
                Michael Brockers
                Ndamukong Suh
                Aaron Donald
                Samson Ebukam
                Corey Littleton
                Marcus Peters
                Aqib Talib
                Nickell Robey-Coleman
                John Johnson
                Lamarcus Joyner
                Johnny Hekker
                Jake McQuaide

                Rookies (5)
                Joe Noteboom
                Brian Allen
                John Franklin-Myers
                Micah Kiser
                Ogbonnia Okoronkwo

                So that's 32 guys who I think are absolute locks.

                I've left out the following players who I are locks provided that they are recovered from previous injuries:

                Mark Barron
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                Dominique Easley
                Sam Shields
                Greg Zuerlein

                If they're healthy, that takes the number to 37.

                The next group are "near-locks," who are players that have the inside track to a roster spot:

                Austin Blythe
                Malcolm Brown
                Michael Thomas
                Ethan Westbrooks
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                Bryce Hager
                Ramik Wilson
                Troy Hill
                Marquis Christian
                Blake Countess

                That gets you to 47.

                So... if I'm right and all of these guys make the team, that leaves only 6 roster spots (not counting practice squad) for the remaining prospects to fight over.

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              • AvengerRam
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                Locks: Jared Goff, Sean Mannion
                Likely: Aaron Murray

                I think the QBs who will be on the roster are already signed. The only question is whether the Rams will keep 2 or 3 QBs on the roster.

                Running Back/Fullback (4-6)

                Locks: Todd Gurley, Lance Dunbar
                Likely: Malcolm Brown, Sam Rogers

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                Wide Receiver (5-6)

                Locks: Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds
                Likely: Tavon Austin, Pharoh Cooper

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                Tight End (2-4)

                Locks: Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett
                Likely: Temmarick Hemmingway

                Not a lot of uncertainty here.

                Offensive Line (8-9)

                Locks: Andrew Whitworth, Rodger Saffold, John Sullivan, Rob Havenstein, Greg Robinson
                Likely: n/a

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                Locks: Aaron Donald, Michael Brockers, Dominique Easley
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                RUNNING BACKS (4): Malcolm Brown, Justin Davis, Aaron Green, Todd Gurley
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              • Nick
                From 90 to 53, here’s the math on the Rams’ roster situation
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                The Rams and Chargers brawled three times when the teams practiced together this month, but when they meet in Saturday’s preseason game at the Coliseum, the true battle for the Rams will be internal.

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                So who is off the bubble? Only McVay and Rams executives know, but here’s a reasonable guess:

                Quarterbacks Jared Goff and Sean Mannion are safe, as are running backs Todd Gurley and Malcolm Brown, receivers Robert Woods, Sammy Watkins, Cooper Kupp, Pharoh Cooper and Tavon Austin, tight ends Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett and Temarrick Hemingway, and offensive linemen Andrew Whitworth, Rob Havenstein, Cody Wichmann, Rodger Saffold, Jamon Brown and John Sullivan.

                On defense, linemen Michael Brockers, Ethan Westbrooks, Matt Longacre, Tanzel Smart and Louis Trinca-Pasat seem set, as do linebackers Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Alec Ogletree, Mark Barron, Ejuan Price and Samson Ebukam, and defensive backs Trumaine Johnson, Mike Jordan, Lamarcus Joyner, Kayvon Webster, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Mo Alexander and Cody Davis.

                Finally, kicker Greg Zuerlein, punter Johnny Hekker and long snapper Jake McQuaide are locks.

                That’s 39 players. Recent playing time indicates that fullback Sam Rogers, receiver Josh Reynolds, offensive linemen Jake Eldrenkamp and Darrell Williams, defensive linemen Mike Purcell, linebacker Josh Forrest and defensive backs John Johnson and Marqui Christian also will make the cut.

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