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  • RUMOR: Giants WR Odell Beckham being pursued by Rams in possible trade


    New York Daily News

    PAT LEONARD
    Mar 26th 2018 4:30PM


    ORLANDO — Odell Beckham Jr. calls Los Angeles home in the offseason and soon he might live there year round.

    The L.A. Rams, according to multiple NFL sources, already have talked with the Giants about possibly trading for the dynamic wide receiver and turning him from a Big Apple phenom into a Hollywood star.

    One Rams executive, when approached by the Daily News at the Ritz-Carlton Grande Lakes Monday afternoon, declined comment but flashed a wry smile and didn’t deny it. “Where did you hear that?” the exec said.

    The News has learned that the Giants’ asking price in a prospective Beckham trade is starting at a first-round pick plus. The “plus” is the negotiable part, but the meaning is that it likely won’t require two first-round picks to get it done.

    Rams GM Les Snead and head coach Sean McVay would not comment when approached by the News on Monday. But Snead is one of only two GMs who have made trades already with Dave Gettleman as Giants GM, and the other is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ Jason Licht, who just re-signed his own wideout Mike Evans to a megadeal himself.

    L.A. is a tantalizing and logical place for Beckham to land considering all the factors at play.

    Offensive guru McVay lit the league on fire last season as a rookie head coach, but he lost deep threat wide receiver Sammy Watkins to the Kansas City Chiefs in free agency and still could use a true No. 1 WR to team with talented wideouts Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp (Here lies the Giants’ 2017 secondary).

    The Rams are building a new $2.6 billion stadium in Inglewood, Calif., for a 2020 NFL season debut, so Beckham’s star power would help open the new digs with a bang.

    And they have a young, talented quarterback in Jared Goff who is also cheap playing on a rookie contract. And that financial flexibility could allow the Rams to sign both free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh and Beckham after they make a trade with New York.

    Beckham doesn’t have a no-trade clause, but his familiarity and affinity for the area could help him acclimate better than he would in other markets. His star power as an NFL and Nike icon still would shine brightly in a major media market such as L.A. despite leaving the bright lights of NYC.

    The Rams hypothetically could give the Giants their 23rd overall pick in this year’s first round, a later round pick and perhaps wide receiver/kick returner Tavon Austin, who has just one year at an $8 million cap hit remaining on his restructured deal. Austin, 28, is dynamic but didn’t see much action in McVay’s offense in 2017.

    The Rams — who, again, were pursuing Beckham even before this week’s drama — easily could have plenty of competition, though, after Giants co-owner John Mara basically invited bidders on Sunday by taking a hard line on Beckham’s behavior and refusing to commit to OBJ being a Giant this coming season.

    That prompted Beckham to throw gasoline on the fire Monday morning, reportedly vowing he won’t set foot on a football field without a long-term contract extension, no matter what team he’s playing for. And so now, The News can report, the Giants are sitting back and — while not actively shopping OBJ — fielding all offers that come.

    And make no mistake: while the Giants are in the middle of a cultural overhaul and rebuild that are directly impacting their decision to possibly trade OBJ, there are plenty other NFL teams that will view Beckham differently — as a gamebreaker worth the risk of a long-term deal for the potential reward.

    Eliminate the NFC East and the Jets as potential suitors, of course. The Giants are not going to trade Beckham in division or let the Jets win big with their former star in their own stadium and make them look bad. But that leaves plenty of parties, led by the Rams but also including other possible intriguing landing spots:

    — The San Francisco *****: Kyle Shanahan could light the league on fire with Jimmy Garoppolo throwing to OBJ. GM John Lynch showed at last year’s draft that he’s a more-than-willing trade partner, and San Fran owns the ninth overall pick this year and also the sixth and 10th picks of the third round. The Giants already have the second and fifth picks in the third round and could dominate the board there if the ***** packaged a one and a three.

    — The Buffalo Bills: GM Brandon Beane worked with Gettleman in Carolina, so there is a pre-existing relationship. Beane’s and Sean McDermott’s club also might have the best draft capital to swing a deal, owning the 12th and 22nd overall picks in the first round and also two second-rounders. Beckham would help out AJ McCarron and a likely rookie quarterback draft pick immensely.

    — The New England Patriots: Imagine the G.O.A.T. throwing to OBJ. Bill Belichick probably will in the next few days.

    — The Baltimore Ravens: Let’s be honest, the Ravens need a wide receiver every year.

    The Giants, of course, are in the driver’s seat to drive the price up from a first-rounder plus. They essentially have invited GMs to make their bids and now can sit back, figure out who wants to buy in to this high stakes sweepstakes, and then can play teams against each other all the way up to the NFL Draft in late April before dealing if they wish.

    Any team that trades for Beckham, however, is going to have to spend a lot of money signing him to his long-term contract extension, as well. So there will could be plenty of suitors arguing they can only give the Giants so much in a trade when they’re making such a significant financial investment on top of it — a long-term commitment that Mara clearly seems uncomfortable making in the star receiver and would be off-loading on someone else.

    And it’s not out of the question that the Giants would accept a lower-than-expected price for Beckham, especially considering the Giants just parted with Jason Pierre-Paul at the discount of a third-round pick to get the deal done.

    Understand, as The News has been writing, while trading Beckham isn’t Mara’s or the Giants’ preferred course of action given Beckham’s talent level, their patience has worn thin. They are reshaping their locker room; they are “tired,” as Mara reminded everyone Sunday, of the negative non-football related headlines; they have warned Beckham again and again; Mara was already at his breaking point in January. On Sunday, he doubled down.

    And Mara’s comment when asked if he could foresee Beckham not being on the team in 2018 — “I can’t answer that one way or the other” — wasn’t even the most telling part of his interview. It was Mara’s long pause after the question was asked. Every reporter with their head in their phones looked up after the few seconds of alarming silence.

    This is real. And outside the Giants, just like inside the building in East Rutherford, Beckham is regarded as a world-class talent, regardless of how he behaves off the field.

    There is a market. The Giants are sellers. And the Rams are looking to buy.

    Who will be next?


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    Great talent, but I'd be concerned about adding another problem child to the mix, not to mention his price tag.

    Go Rams!!!

    viper.

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    • #3
      It's a nice thought, even if I don't care for how he acts, but he's saying he won't play without a new contract... are we even able to pay him long term?

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      • #4
        Per Rotoworld:

        The New York Daily News reports the Rams are interested in trading for Odell Beckham.

        The Daily News also reports the Giants' asking price is a first-round pick "plus." The "plus" would seem to indicate a deal could get done without multiple first-rounders. Newsday reported earlier Monday the Giants prefer to keep Beckham to trading him but it's beginning to appear the trade talk isn't purely smoke. Absent a truly landslide haul — which already appears off the table — the Giants will lose any Beckham trade.

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        • #5
          Absolutely no interest in this jerk

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          • #6
            I'm having a hard time contemplating how this could work.

            Sure, the Rams could package their first round pick and some other draft compensation (and maybe throw in Tavon Austin) to tempt the Giants. That's not the issue.

            The issue is... how do you make OBJ happy from a $ standpoint and still pay Aaron Donald (and, down the road, Todd Gurley and Jared Goff)?

            Maybe there's a way... but I'm going to go with a strong "I doubt it" on this one.

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            • #7
              Hell. No. I would not be thrilled about this at all.
              Always and Forever a fan of the St. Louis Rams

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              • #8
                totally agree on the HELL NO sentiments... though I'd use stronger wording but get banned from the site

                There are just some players who are simply toxic:, TO and Randy Moss to just name two....give me a Holt or Bruce any day, or in others words Professionals

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                • #9
                  I hear ya. But, if it happened, could you get behind it? I didn't think the Suh thing would happen for the same reason. What if? He is a World Class No. 1 receiver, Can you imagine what our offense and defense would be able to do this season? I think he is a much better option at receiver than Watkins..
                  Last edited by viper; -03-26-2018, 09:51 PM.

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                  • #10
                    They spread the ball around a lot in this offense. Why waste draft resources and cap dollars to bring in one of the biggest divas in the NFL and have him catch 60 balls? I'd rather try to develop Reynolds. Watkins was a deep ball guy and red zone target for us and I think Reynolds' skill set could fill that void if he is developed properly.

                    Not to mention that, quite frankly, Beckham is one of the most unlikeable guys in the league IMO. Drama drama drama. I suppose if we really feel the need for a guy that gets in fights with kicking nets and sobs uncontrollably on the sidelines, then go ahead and make a trade offer. Otherwise, thanks but no thanks.

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                    • #11
                      Why would we pay that kind of asking price- a #1 pick plus a boatload of money for this guy? May as well have kept Watkins.

                      And how would bringing this guy aboard this help Goff grow into the position? You think Beckham throwing a fit and bellyaching for the ball every fifth play is gonna' be productive?

                      Sorry, but if they bring him in here after all the other moves they've made with suspect characters, I question whether I'll be able to passionately root for this club. Going from class acts like Bruce and Holt to a total jerkoff like this guy would show me they've totally lost their compass.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
                        Sorry, but if they bring him in here after all the other moves they've made with suspect characters, I question whether I'll be able to passionately root for this club. Going from class acts like Bruce and Holt to a total jerkoff like this guy would show me they've totally lost their compass.
                        I find it curious this “fixation” (yes, it is in quotations 'cuz I don't realy believe anyone is obsessed with the idea) on the perceived all-of-sudden absence of a moral compass by the FO. Including Watkins, none of these acquisitions are guaranteed a boat load of money. They are all rentals. They don’t pan out, they move on. They don’t get extensions, they don’t pass go. And the positional merry-go-round will continue next year. But they are all talented, getting a “second chance”, and could well be the difference maker. Yes, they come with baggage. And if they can’t get their act together, they will be gone. Rest assured, this FO is not another enabling org like Cincy.

                        Which brings me to OBJ. Here my grief with flying a rental trial balloon with OBJ is that the FO already lost trade package value by “giving away” oTree for relative peanuts. No way is NYG going to say we fleeced you on the oTree trade so we’re going to cut you a deal for OBJ. That’s water under the bridge. But, we need a long ball threat. I’m game to take a flyer on OBJ on another rental basis like Watkins. OBJ certainly wouldn’t get an extension from me without a prove-it year under his belt. Having already given up oTree I think it is going to take a creative GM to craft a reasonable trade package ... (hey, Snead, you up to the task on this one, something like NOT trading up to 8 for Mr Gadget?).

                        I don’t want a bunch of crybaby, dirty, cheap-shot artists on board over the long haul. But, if they want to come clean, play smash-mouth football, set the antics aside for Hollyweed entertainment, then let’s roll ...

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                        • #13
                          There's no way we bring in a player who is questionable in their behavior and a locker room distraction!!!

                          Wait a minute...
                          The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by adarian_too View Post

                            I find it curious this “fixation” (yes, it is in quotations 'cuz I don't realy believe anyone is obsessed with the idea) on the perceived all-of-sudden absence of a moral compass by the FO. Including Watkins, none of these acquisitions are guaranteed a boat load of money. They are all rentals. They don’t pan out, they move on. They don’t get extensions, they don’t pass go. And the positional merry-go-round will continue next year. But they are all talented, getting a “second chance”, and could well be the difference maker. Yes, they come with baggage. And if they can’t get their act together, they will be gone. Rest assured, this FO is not another enabling org like Cincy.

                            Which brings me to OBJ. Here my grief with flying a rental trial balloon with OBJ is that the FO already lost trade package value by “giving away” oTree for relative peanuts. No way is NYG going to say we fleeced you on the oTree trade so we’re going to cut you a deal for OBJ. That’s water under the bridge. But, we need a long ball threat. I’m game to take a flyer on OBJ on another rental basis like Watkins. OBJ certainly wouldn’t get an extension from me without a prove-it year under his belt. Having already given up oTree I think it is going to take a creative GM to craft a reasonable trade package ... (hey, Snead, you up to the task on this one, something like NOT trading up to 8 for Mr Gadget?).

                            I don’t want a bunch of crybaby, dirty, cheap-shot artists on board over the long haul. But, if they want to come clean, play smash-mouth football, set the antics aside for Hollyweed entertainment, then let’s roll ...
                            My basic point is that after we've tasted success in a season for which we're all very proud, we've decided to add not one but THREE guys to the team who have shown character issues through petulance, dirty play, ejections, etc. And now (if you're to believe rumors) we're entertaining the idea of adding OBJ. This shows a willingness to sell one's soul to win- something I'm not interested in witnessing nor rooting for. And as a lifelong Rams fan who has suffered along with everyone else over the years, I'd like to be able to embrace the guys I'm pulling for.

                            A point can be made that we should trust Wade Phillips to handle these guys and incorporate their talents while eliminating the BS. Fair enough. But that doesn't address how OBJ, an offensive player, may or may not act for a coach with one year under his belt- a guy who is busy enough looking at flow charts and formations who doesn't need the added headache of listening to OBJ bellyache and throw a tantrum on the sideline or getting 15 yard unsportsmanlike calls. This is a guy who Tom Coughlin, a noted disciplinarian and hard-ass, couldn't contain. OBJ is also no one year rental and will not come cheap.

                            I'm by no means advocating signing mediocre players who are squeaky clean. And I'm also OK with taking a chance on a guy with questionable behavior IF you have a good organizational culture. What I am opposed to is taking on multiple problem children then hoping/expecting them to all totally change their behavior. Ain't gonna' happen.

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                            • #15
                              Okay... I'm on record with my strong doubts that this will happen.

                              But...

                              If the Rams could swing a deal without overpaying.
                              And if the Rams could find a way to pay OBJ and Aaron Donald without mortgaging the future.

                              (Big "Ifs")

                              ...then, I would be behind such a move.

                              The off-field stuff is a concern, sure... but this is a guy who averaged 96 receptions, around 1,370 yards, and nearly 12 TDs per season over his first three years.

                              You can't tell me that he wouldn't be an upgrade for our offense.

                              Again... I DON'T think this will happen.

                              But it is fun to speculate.

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