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    The Rams have several players who will require new contracts in the coming years. Of those likely to get paid $10M/year or more, here is the order I believe the Rams must address their in-house FA issues:

    1. Aaron Donald. Though the Rams can wait from a contractual/franchise tag standpoint, I think he has to go first. He's earned a big payday, and the Rams need to check this box.

    2. Brandin Cooks. We can't afford to have another one-and-done situation. I believe Cooks is a better player and a better fit than Sammy Watkins was, and I'd like to see him locked in before he hits the FA market in 2019.

    3. Ndamukong Suh. I think there is a scenario in which he could be retained on a 2-3 year deal after this season. If the Donald/Suh combination proves to be as special on the field as it is on paper, we have to try.

    4. Lamarcus Joyner. He's next up. Can't use the franchise tag on the FS position more than once.

    5. Marcus Peters. As long as his conduct is not an issue, he should be a long-term guy. Aqib Talib only has so much time left, so he'll be the shut-down CB.

    6. Jared Goff. The benefit of having him on a rookie deal won't last forever. Eventually, he'll have to be locked in.

    7. Todd Gurley. Name the last RB who proved to be worth a mega-deal after his rookie deal ran out. Not so easy, is it. I hope Gurley is a Ram for life, but there are harder positions to fill than RB.

    Others who will need new deals in the next few years, but should come at a less than premium price: Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown, Michael Brockers, John Johnson

  • #2
    As Av points out, these are all huge issues looming on the LA horizon. My thoughts in red

    Originally posted by AvengerRam View Post
    The Rams have several players who will require new contracts in the coming years. Of those likely to get paid $10M/year or more, here is the order I believe the Rams must address their in-house FA issues:

    1. Aaron Donald. Though the Rams can wait from a contractual/franchise tag standpoint, I think he has to go first. He's earned a big payday, and the Rams need to check this box.
    I 100% agree that he needs a deal and to be paid but it has to be fair for both parties involved.

    2. Brandin Cooks. We can't afford to have another one-and-done situation. I believe Cooks is a better player and a better fit than Sammy Watkins was, and I'd like to see him locked in before he hits the FA market in 2019.
    This is an interesting one and one I might have put even before Donald! BUT it all depends on his performance over the season and if he clicks with the team.

    3. Ndamukong Suh. I think there is a scenario in which he could be retained on a 2-3 year deal after this season. If the Donald/Suh combination proves to be as special on the field as it is on paper, we have to try.
    Not sure, just not sure if he still has the guns to keep going for another 2/3 years. I would love him to get a new lease of life with the Rams, I really would so I am holding my breath with this one.

    4. Lamarcus Joyner. He's next up. Can't use the franchise tag on the FS position more than once.
    Love to lock him up but don't see him as a Ram for much longer

    5. Marcus Peters. As long as his conduct is not an issue, he should be a long-term guy. Aqib Talib only has so much time left, so he'll be the shut-down CB.
    Fully agree, he should be in the Ram mix for a few years to come.

    6. Jared Goff. The benefit of having him on a rookie deal won't last forever. Eventually, he'll have to be locked in.
    This is one of those (including Gurley) that nobody will be able to forsee, what if he chokes this year, what if he absolutely grabs the Ram by the horns and takes us to a championship

    7. Todd Gurley. Name the last RB who proved to be worth a mega-deal after his rookie deal ran out. Not so easy, is it. I hope Gurley is a Ram for life, but there are harder positions to fill than RB.
    See comment above about Goff, same applies

    Others who will need new deals in the next few years, but should come at a less than premium price: Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown, Michael Brockers, John Johnson


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    • #3
      I can't imagine we keep all these guys. I'm hoping that maybe John Franklin Myers or somebody else shows enough to where we don't need to re-sign an aging Suh... but I don't know where else we have an in-house replacement ready to go for any of the other guys. Les better start hanging on to some of our early draft picks over the next few years!

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      • #4
        My thoughts:

        1A. Brandin Cooks. In order for McVay to really execute his gameplan, he needs dynamic offensive playmakers. We can't afford to keep losing big playmakers after only 1 season. Brandin Cooks provides a ton of versatility and big play ability and will allow McVay to creatively use Woods and Kupp and Everett as well.

        1B. Aaron Donald. This guy is the best D-lineman. He is the best defensive player. We need to do everything we can (within reason) to lock him up.

        2. Marcus Peters. This is assuming Marcus Peters meshes well with the locker room. Like Brandin Cooks is to McVay, Peters fulfills that role for Wade Phillips. Phillips' defense requires lockdown corners, so Peters provides that necessity.

        3. Gurley. I think Gurley is a monster and is more important to our offense than Goff (sorry Jared). It isn't super difficult to find capable running backs in the draft, but it is harder to find one of Gurley's caliber.

        4. Ndamukong Suh. We were fine without Suh before, and we will be fine if/when he leaves. However, if we can't lock Donald up AND we lose Suh...things start looking pretty shaky for our D-line. I think having an interior comprised of Donald/Brockers/Suh helps mitigate our weakness at ILB.

        5. Jared Goff. I like Goff and I think he is a good QB. However, do I think he is a top ten QB? No...not yet at least. I also think McVay & Co. have the ability and the track record to be able to successfully draft and develop a new rookie QB, IF REQUIRED. If we keep our key offensive weapons (Gurley, Cooks, Kupp, Woods) and sustain our o-line, I think our offense can be kind of plug-and-play for another young rookie QB.

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        • #5
          The good news with Goff is we have the benefit of his rookie contract for 3 more years (including option). By then, hopefully the decision regarding his future will be a no brainer.

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          • #6
            I think I am a bit more optimistic than most in regards to resigning Lamarcus Joyner. Maybe I am being naive by taking him at his word, but he has repeatedly stated that he's not in it for the money. I'm sure we all remember the scene in Hard Knocks where he said the Rams can keep their money and he'd rather work at Walmart than come off the bench. I think if the team keeps winning, he is playing well and gelling with his teammates, then resigning him will be a possibility. I'm sure it won't be cheap, but I think he'd be amenable to signing a reasonable contract that would keep him with the team for the long term.

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            • #7
              This is a question that must plague the Rams FO almost every day right now. The order of when each player gets signed or not, I think depends on a larger mosaic. The issues involve, how much do we allocate to each position group?, what are our other options on the roster to fill empty spots?, what can the draft offer as replacements? The issue of what should get done, such as Aaron Donald plays a role too. I think it starts with the Rams deciding whom they consider core players on each side of the ball.

              Currently Donald, Goff, Gurley, Peters, Zeurlein, Hecker, Whitworth, Kupp & Cooks likely are the core. Of course Whitworth is not a long-termer and some others in this group are not up for contracts at this time. Donald, Cooks and Peters are contracts that need attention either due to expiring rookie deals (Donald) or this can be an opportunistic time to get deals done at somewhat lower cost (Cooks & Peters).

              I'm thinking Suh is a bridge to a 1st round DT in next year's draft. We cannot afford to allocate that much cap space to the D-Line (Brockers and Donald) and cover our other needs.

              Joyner is more important than some of us think. Our division is going to be a very heavy pass oriented one given the QB's. Joyner fills a big role, not unlike Earl Thomas.

              Go Rams!

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              • #8
                Those who said that Cooks should be at the top of the list got their wish!

                If we can lock up Donald before the season, I really think that's enough for now. There will be a lot of players that will need to be addressed in 2019, but we'll have a lot more flexibility, both in terms of cap space, and the ability to replace players (if needed) through the draft.

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                • #9
                  As long as we're reviving this thread, I'm curious about the Clan's take on this in regard to Saffold since he is in his last year as well. While not the $10m plus per year club, he's getting paid just shy of 7 million this year, after being paid approximately 8 million, 7 million, 5 million, and 5 million in the previous 4 years of his deal.

                  Do others see him as a FA/extension item that must be addressed?

                  I think it's critical to see what we've got in Jamil Demby this year. A raw 6th round prospect out of Maine... will he be able to take over for Saffold next year? I have my doubts; and unfortunately, it's not going to be cheap to re-up Saffold for what I'm guessing will be a 3 year deal. I think he'll be demanding $8+ per year with a lot of guaranteed cash. That's a problem in my book. If Demby and Noteboom don't make an immediate impact, Rams are going to be hurting at OL. Let's keep in mind, until drafting Noteboom and Demby this year, the Rams had not drafted a single offensive lineman since 2015 (Havenstein, Brown, Donnal, and Wichman). So unless you have great faith in one of these guys replacing him or an offseason move being made (which can be expensive too), does Saffold become a part of the above list?
                  Last edited by KoaKoi; -07-19-2018, 12:18 PM. Reason: grammar fix

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