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  • Everybody's An Expert On The Rams Woes.........

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/w...ow-struggling/

  • #2
    Interesting read, particularly the breakdown on the passing performances. It would seem to me, as a simple fan from the couch, that if the defense is not biting on jet motion or play action handoffs to Gurley, then perhaps the first attempt at a solution would be to call their bluff and incorporate more jet sweep runs and handoffs to Gurley to make them think about it. Of course, you have to be effective on those plays to make it count, and too often our line - which has struggled to protect Goff in recent weeks - is also not opening up the same types of holes for Gurley (IMO) that we saw earlier in the year. Regardless, the blueprint seems to be out there, so let's see what wunderkind McVay can come up with to counter it.

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    • #3
      Challenge accepted, right Coach?
      “Oh, 100 percent,” Donald said. “I feel like the words, ‘Thank you,’ ain’t enough. You’ve got to show it... Instead of saying thank you — show it.”

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      • #4
        My observation is that early in the year Goff was getting a day and a half to throw the football. Large holes were being opened for Gurley. Everyone was healthy. And the result was an offense that was putting up tremendous numbers. Fast forward to week 16, and those holes are now a lot smaller. Gurley is banged up. Kupp is out. Teams are now adjusting to plays that were once effective more often than not. And Goff has not shown he is yet capable of consistently maintaining poise and presence with a pass rush in his face. He needs to start- and McVay, if he's the dynamic offensive guru everyone seems to think he is, needs to start mixing it up to compensate for our deficiencies while putting Goff in the best position to be successful again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
          My observation is that early in the year Goff was getting a day and a half to throw the football. Large holes were being opened for Gurley. Everyone was healthy. And the result was an offense that was putting up tremendous numbers. Fast forward to week 16, and those holes are now a lot smaller. Gurley is banged up. Kupp is out. Teams are now adjusting to plays that were once effective more often than not. And Goff has not shown he is yet capable of consistently maintaining poise and presence with a pass rush in his face. He needs to start- and McVay, if he's the dynamic offensive guru everyone seems to think he is, needs to start mixing it up to compensate for our deficiencies while putting Goff in the best position to be successful again.
          My thoughts are similar to yours, NJ.

          The Rams super power this year has been offense. An inside and downfield passing attack activated by a running/short passing game led by Gurley, and Goff standing tall and wheeling & dealing behind a solid O line doing a great job at both run and pass blocking.

          Problems began to mount. The loss of Kupp (and his unique combo of blocking, inside and downfield receiving) and the re-shuffling of the WR corps. An O line anchored by older players wearing down. Gurley developing health/injury issues. Goff, now with fewer options and under more pressure, pressing and even panicking, making poor throws, mistakes and turnovers. McVay, still an inexperienced HC and really more of an empowered OC, also pressing in his play calling. As the offensive productivity has declined, more pressure on a flawed D which has not had to face much in the way of game-winning pressure because it has always been outscoring the opponent that has saved the day for this season's Rams.

          So, I don't think it's that mysterious or difficult to figure out what has been going wrong. Opposing Ds are not biting on the play action and decoys because those threats are not as credible. They are able to focus on pressuring Goff and playing pass defense. Where this gets depressing is trying to figure out a solution that will work for this season, considering we are already a playoff team. The basic answer is that the O line must step up. The old guys, Whitworth and Sullivan, must find a reserve of inspiration, strength and energy for the stretch run. I really think that's the crux of it for this season's prospects, with a caveat: if Gurley is not able to be Gurley, it's hard to see how we can win out.

          But if Gurley can't go tomorrow (and I hope he doesn't unless he's really right), the O line can still step up and Anderson and Kelly can still run hard, the D can make plays, and we can play with grit and win against the worst team in the league right now. It's intangible time. At the least, I want to see us bring all working guns to bear and fight hard like serious contenders all the way to the end, whenever that is.

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          • #6
            Its not just the Rams being figured out....all the explosive teams that have relied on misdirection has been struggling because defenses stay in their lanes and play cover zones with over the top safeties refusing to give up big plays--defenses are willing to challenge these offenses to try and run the ball and are content to let teams grind it out on the ground playing for 3rd and 5+ yards as their money down to get off the field

            The Rams need to adjust their overall scheme on offense--they may not be raking up 30points a game but the truth is that Rams defense has to step it up because without good defense going into the playoffs its going to be a very short post season for the Rams

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ram Dragoon View Post
              Its not just the Rams being figured out....all the explosive teams that have relied on misdirection has been struggling because defenses stay in their lanes and play cover zones with over the top safeties refusing to give up big plays--defenses are willing to challenge these offenses to try and run the ball and are content to let teams grind it out on the ground playing for 3rd and 5+ yards as their money down to get off the field

              The Rams need to adjust their overall scheme on offense--they may not be raking up 30points a game but the truth is that Rams defense has to step it up because without good defense going into the playoffs its going to be a very short post season for the Rams
              I hear you, Dragoon. The Rams must rebuild their productivity from the line of scrimmage. We need to see them physical and winning the line of scrimmage. Able to run and stop the run. If we can do that, we can get the bells and whistles working again. That's what it usually comes down to at the end of the season. Let's see our boys do it.

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              • #8
                Stop committing stupid turnovers. As bad as they've looked the last two games, remove the turnovers and those games are probably Ws. Even though there's 35 coaches on the sideline and up in the box with computers in there hands doing trigonometry, it ain't FN rocket science.

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                • #9
                  To me, this is a repeat of the 2004 Rams season complaints.

                  Just replace the names of Bulger, Faulk, Bruce, and Holt with our current players and it sounds the same.

                  What it really comes down to is that other teams have found our weaknesses, our guys are getting banged up, and everyone is tired. That said, we must all remember the ONE rule of football: Any given Sunday...
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                  • NJ Ramsfan1
                    Thoughts and Observations
                    by NJ Ramsfan1
                    The Rams picked the absolute worst time for an offensive clunker, laying an egg in the Super Bowl, and there were plenty of culprits. Start with Gurley, who showed again that he's obviously hurt, despite the repeated and ridiculous proclamations to the contrary by the organization, McVay and Gurley himself. Was a tight end's name mentioned all night? Higbee and Everett apparently went into Witness Protection, because they were totally invisible. Ditto for Robert Woods, who contributed virtually nothing. Only Reynolds and Cooks carried their weight offensively though Cooks' two drops killed us (more on this later).

                    Goff could never get it going. He wasn't helped, as his offensive line played poorly for much of the night, especially Austin Blythe, who was tossed around like a salad every time I watched him. Goff nonetheless took a couple of ill-advised sacks and was skittish on throws when pressure came. He continued his pattern of making bad reads from time to time, trying to hit covered receivers while others roamed free. It's his biggest weakness, IMO, and one has to hope it's the byproduct of youth which will be improved with reps and experience.

                    Three pivotal plays changed the course of this game. One was the phantom holding call on Sullivan during Gurley's 27 yard run- a call that changed the drive and forced a punt. Terrible, over-officious call. And plays two and three were the drops by Cooks- difficult catches for sure, but ones made by big time players in big time moments. The 2nd one in particular on a beautifully thrown ball by Goff REALLY hurt, as a possible 10-10 tie was replaced by an interception thrown one play later. Game over.

                    McVay was outcoached. One can safely say that because when a man's bread and butter- offensive football- is reduced to a pile of trash on the biggest stage in the sport, he didn't do a good job and had no answers. Why weren't the tight ends incorporated more? Why wasn't CJ Anderson given a bigger role given Gurley's continued troubles? The Goff fake handoff and play action fooled no one. And I think if the offense is predicated too much on the success of one guy (Gurley), you're going to have problems, as evidenced tonight.

                    Credit Phillips, who had the defense ready. They played well enough to win, and despite their lousy coverage of Edelman, made stops when needed and kept New England off the scoreboard. We'll certainly see some changes for next year, but couldn't have asked too much more from them- this defeat rests squarely on the offensive side of the ball. And if you had bet me this would be the way the game would go, I'd have lost my shirt.

                    In time, I'll appreciate the season we had, but in sports, you must take advantage of opportunities given to you in Championship Games, because you never know if or when you'll ever get back. A bitter pill to swallow on so many levels....
                    -02-04-2019, 04:29 AM
                  • kman1521
                    Mcvay play calling absolutely horrendous
                    by kman1521
                    Not only does he forget about running Gurley, he calls all these 7 step drop plays that take forever to develop whike bears are getting tons of pressure. Wheres the quick slants? Quick any pass!?!.. just awful playcalling..goff was awful too
                    -12-09-2018, 09:11 PM
                  • MauiRam
                    Bonsignore: Five things the Rams must accomplish in training camp
                    by MauiRam

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                    There was so much still hanging in the air.

                    An entire franchise was making the move across country. A practice facility was hurriedly being constructed to be ready in time for the regular season.

                    Families were still settling into new homes and neighborhoods and schools. Directions were required to find the nearest grocery store, let alone figure out how to get from one temporary practice site to another across three counties and more than 100 miles.

                    ďIn fluxĒ is as good a way to describe it as any. And thatís not even getting into the actual football side of things. Although we all know how that turned out.

                    That isnít to excuse the depths the Rams fell to in the eventual 4-12 season. Many of their problems were carryovers from their former home, unrelated to distance and upheaval.

                    Itís simply to point out there was an obvious and constant undercurrent of instability this time last year. And no matter how much the Rams tried to deny or manage or work around it, it was just wishful thinking. Instead they spent a year trying to get comfortable while never really getting comfortable.

                    The difference now canít be understated. The Rams are no longer the new family on the block. They are established members of the community.

                    And as they approach their second training camp at UC Irvine as the Los Angeles Rams, you get the sense 100 percent of the focus is back on football rather than spread across various different areas.

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                    OFFENSIVE LINE MUST GET SQUARED AWAY

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                    -07-25-2017, 09:06 PM
                  • Nick
                    Todd Gurley has 'been loving' Sean McVay's offense
                    by Nick
                    Todd Gurley has 'been loving' Sean McVay's offense
                    By Jeremy Bergman NFL.com
                    Published: July 8, 2017 at 03:25 p.m. Updated: July 9, 2017 at 08:28 a.m.

                    Todd Gurley's first season in Hollywood was next to nightmarish.

                    After a promising rookie campaign, the former Offensive Rookie of the Year saw his yards per carry average dip to 3.2 and barely saw any opportunities to break big runs behind an ineffective offensive line. It also didn't help that the Rams quarterbacks were the least feared signal-callers west of Florham Park, inspiring opposing linebackers and safeties to crowd the box and limit Gurley's options.

                    But with new coach Sean McVay at the helm, Gurley is rejuvenated with hopes that his second go-around in the Coliseum will bear better results.

                    "I hope so," Gurley said, when asked by Zig Fracassi on SiriusXM NFL Radio if he expects Los Angeles' offense to be more "Gurley-friendly" in 2017. "Yeah, Coach. Tell Coach we want it Todd-friendly."

                    Gurley added that he has "definitely been loving" McVay's style of offense, which for now has the back focusing on daily preparation and being a "situational master." NFL Network's Gregg Rosenthal noted during minicamp that the Rams were moving the third-year back all around the offensive formation: in motion out of the backfield, outside the hashes, etc.

                    Inspiring the tailback this offseason is the development of second-year quarterback Jared Goff, who had shown in minicamp to be a more than competent option at QB.

                    "Oh, he's been getting better. Obviously, he didn't go No. 1 for no reason. He has the talent, and he's just been getting better," Gurley gushed. "He definitely had a great OTAs, great minicamp. Coaches have been doing a good job with him. Just his preparation, him being there all day, he's been great so far, man, so I'm definitely looking forward to it."

                    The running back's comments this summer are a far cry from what Gurley was saying just seven months ago about the state of L.A.'s attack. Following the Rams' loss to Atlanta in Week 14 -- a defeat that proved career-fatal for then-coach Jeff Fisher -- Gurley mused that his unit looked like a "middle school offense out there." In January, he told NFL Network's Rich Eisen that the Rams' 4-12 campaign was "like a nightmare."

                    It's still summer, and nary a Ram has yet to put on pads. But it sounds as if Gurley has already graduated from last year's middle-school nightmare to a professional dream.

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                    -07-09-2017, 07:01 AM
                  • NJ Ramsfan1
                    Tonight's loss- Revelations and Observations
                    by NJ Ramsfan1
                    The Rams have enjoyed two back-to-back excellent seasons resulting in two NFC West titles. They've been the deserving recipients of much praise during that time and have made football fun again. That said, some observations must be made.

                    Though not unexpected by me, tonight's loss was nonetheless disappointing. Credit the Bears, a good team who tonight were better, hungrier, more disciplined and tougher- overcoming a 3 int performance by their QB, who was rusty after a two-week absence, And thumbs down to Sean McVay, who continues to bewilder with his periodic unwillingness to utilize Gurley in the running game. This infatuation with the pass when you have the game's best back is mind-boggling to me. Certainly McVay is intelligent enough to know that play action only works when you establish a running game. Otherwise, the ball fake means nothing and defenses aren't fooled. Tonight, his unwillingness to get Gurley going early hurt the offense. It's almost like McVay overthinks stuff from time to time. And the use of timeouts- including an ugly stretch where we used two of them in a three second span- continues to conjure up images of Mike Martz. We simply have to have a better handle on processing play calls.

                    Goff, for all of the tremendous strides he's made, still has much work to do. He had the absolute worst game he's had in the McVay regime, looking totally lost and displaying the lack of poise shown in his rookie year. His mistakes were numerous and came in all areas of play. He misfired on numerous throws, missed open receivers, forced balls, showed poor pocket presence and threw 4 interceptions- one of which immediately followed a Rams defensive pick. Goff has regressed the past two weeks, and as we head towards the playoffs, this is a concern. It begs the question "Who is Jared Goff?" Is he a guy who needs everything to be perfect including great protection, a great back, and the weather to succeed? Or is he a guy who can succeed despite adverse conditions? Is he truly a potentially elite QB or simply the beneficiary of a lot of surrounding talent and a brilliant coach? His performance tonight feeds the stereotype of the West Coast/warm climate player: a guy who isn't tough and performs poorly in less-than-ideal weather and with some pressure in his face.

                    Tonight's game also drove home a point I've made time and again- to the disagreement of some in today's fantasy-driven offensive-minded NFL: Defense is still very important. The high-flying Rams were grounded tonight. And with the big names we have on defense, we have to be able to do this to a New Orleans, a New England or a Kansas City if we see them again.

                    Moving forward, I want to see improved balance from McVay with Gurley getting the opportunity to establish things early. I want continued improvement from the defense. And I want Goff to rebound from two sub-par weeks of football....
                    -12-09-2018, 09:20 PM
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