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  • Everybody's An Expert On The Rams Woes.........

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/w...ow-struggling/

  • #2
    Interesting read, particularly the breakdown on the passing performances. It would seem to me, as a simple fan from the couch, that if the defense is not biting on jet motion or play action handoffs to Gurley, then perhaps the first attempt at a solution would be to call their bluff and incorporate more jet sweep runs and handoffs to Gurley to make them think about it. Of course, you have to be effective on those plays to make it count, and too often our line - which has struggled to protect Goff in recent weeks - is also not opening up the same types of holes for Gurley (IMO) that we saw earlier in the year. Regardless, the blueprint seems to be out there, so let's see what wunderkind McVay can come up with to counter it.

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    • #3
      Challenge accepted, right Coach?
      “Oh, 100 percent,” Donald said. “I feel like the words, ‘Thank you,’ ain’t enough. You’ve got to show it... Instead of saying thank you — show it.”

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      • #4
        My observation is that early in the year Goff was getting a day and a half to throw the football. Large holes were being opened for Gurley. Everyone was healthy. And the result was an offense that was putting up tremendous numbers. Fast forward to week 16, and those holes are now a lot smaller. Gurley is banged up. Kupp is out. Teams are now adjusting to plays that were once effective more often than not. And Goff has not shown he is yet capable of consistently maintaining poise and presence with a pass rush in his face. He needs to start- and McVay, if he's the dynamic offensive guru everyone seems to think he is, needs to start mixing it up to compensate for our deficiencies while putting Goff in the best position to be successful again.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
          My observation is that early in the year Goff was getting a day and a half to throw the football. Large holes were being opened for Gurley. Everyone was healthy. And the result was an offense that was putting up tremendous numbers. Fast forward to week 16, and those holes are now a lot smaller. Gurley is banged up. Kupp is out. Teams are now adjusting to plays that were once effective more often than not. And Goff has not shown he is yet capable of consistently maintaining poise and presence with a pass rush in his face. He needs to start- and McVay, if he's the dynamic offensive guru everyone seems to think he is, needs to start mixing it up to compensate for our deficiencies while putting Goff in the best position to be successful again.
          My thoughts are similar to yours, NJ.

          The Rams super power this year has been offense. An inside and downfield passing attack activated by a running/short passing game led by Gurley, and Goff standing tall and wheeling & dealing behind a solid O line doing a great job at both run and pass blocking.

          Problems began to mount. The loss of Kupp (and his unique combo of blocking, inside and downfield receiving) and the re-shuffling of the WR corps. An O line anchored by older players wearing down. Gurley developing health/injury issues. Goff, now with fewer options and under more pressure, pressing and even panicking, making poor throws, mistakes and turnovers. McVay, still an inexperienced HC and really more of an empowered OC, also pressing in his play calling. As the offensive productivity has declined, more pressure on a flawed D which has not had to face much in the way of game-winning pressure because it has always been outscoring the opponent that has saved the day for this season's Rams.

          So, I don't think it's that mysterious or difficult to figure out what has been going wrong. Opposing Ds are not biting on the play action and decoys because those threats are not as credible. They are able to focus on pressuring Goff and playing pass defense. Where this gets depressing is trying to figure out a solution that will work for this season, considering we are already a playoff team. The basic answer is that the O line must step up. The old guys, Whitworth and Sullivan, must find a reserve of inspiration, strength and energy for the stretch run. I really think that's the crux of it for this season's prospects, with a caveat: if Gurley is not able to be Gurley, it's hard to see how we can win out.

          But if Gurley can't go tomorrow (and I hope he doesn't unless he's really right), the O line can still step up and Anderson and Kelly can still run hard, the D can make plays, and we can play with grit and win against the worst team in the league right now. It's intangible time. At the least, I want to see us bring all working guns to bear and fight hard like serious contenders all the way to the end, whenever that is.

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          • #6
            Its not just the Rams being figured out....all the explosive teams that have relied on misdirection has been struggling because defenses stay in their lanes and play cover zones with over the top safeties refusing to give up big plays--defenses are willing to challenge these offenses to try and run the ball and are content to let teams grind it out on the ground playing for 3rd and 5+ yards as their money down to get off the field

            The Rams need to adjust their overall scheme on offense--they may not be raking up 30points a game but the truth is that Rams defense has to step it up because without good defense going into the playoffs its going to be a very short post season for the Rams

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ram Dragoon View Post
              Its not just the Rams being figured out....all the explosive teams that have relied on misdirection has been struggling because defenses stay in their lanes and play cover zones with over the top safeties refusing to give up big plays--defenses are willing to challenge these offenses to try and run the ball and are content to let teams grind it out on the ground playing for 3rd and 5+ yards as their money down to get off the field

              The Rams need to adjust their overall scheme on offense--they may not be raking up 30points a game but the truth is that Rams defense has to step it up because without good defense going into the playoffs its going to be a very short post season for the Rams
              I hear you, Dragoon. The Rams must rebuild their productivity from the line of scrimmage. We need to see them physical and winning the line of scrimmage. Able to run and stop the run. If we can do that, we can get the bells and whistles working again. That's what it usually comes down to at the end of the season. Let's see our boys do it.

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              • #8
                Stop committing stupid turnovers. As bad as they've looked the last two games, remove the turnovers and those games are probably Ws. Even though there's 35 coaches on the sideline and up in the box with computers in there hands doing trigonometry, it ain't FN rocket science.

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                • #9
                  To me, this is a repeat of the 2004 Rams season complaints.

                  Just replace the names of Bulger, Faulk, Bruce, and Holt with our current players and it sounds the same.

                  What it really comes down to is that other teams have found our weaknesses, our guys are getting banged up, and everyone is tired. That said, we must all remember the ONE rule of football: Any given Sunday...
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                  RAMS!

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