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    Rams to get two third round compensatory picks in this year's draft based on trumaine and sammy watkins leaving (neither of which did squat to justify the money that the jets and chiefs paid them)

    Ramming speed to all

    general counsel

  • #2
    That's exactly what Snead & co. hoped. Great news. No 7th for Davis, though? That was floated in some of the projections last month...


    • #3
      Originally posted by general counsel View Post
      Rams to get two third round compensatory picks in this year's draft based on trumaine and sammy watkins leaving (neither of which did squat to justify the money that the jets and chiefs paid them)

      Ramming speed to all

      general counsel
      I know how the game of football is played from the standpoint of the Xs and Os….ok but how players are paid--not a damn clue and thus my lack of understanding a player's motivation. This is what I understand:

      There is a player's market at every position based on need and difficulty. Elite WRs and DBs get paid big money with QBs getting the lion's share followed by playmakers and difference makers like Donald. So aside from their yearly salary (contract) and bonuses (if any) it all breaks down to number of games played. However come the playoffs, I am sure there has to be cash on the table for each player in the post season--now is that a fixed amount or a percentage of their 16 game season?

      So I am guessing Watkins gets something because the Chiefs are in and T. Johnston get notta being the Jets ended their season in Jet style--Again. So what is it about players like Johnston who knew he was on a championship bound team want to pack up and play for a cluster (censored) team like the Jets? L.A. has more off season potential for making money off the field for someone who didn't study Rocket Science in College...just wondering what's in the heads of NFL players. Having a Super Bowl ring opens doors outside of football then anything else, just as that ring opens doors inside football even if its no longer being on the field.

      Anyone care to give me some back drop to these questions?


      • #4
        Quoting from Yahoo Sports: "The NFL awards compensatory picks to players who lose free agents and don’t sign other free agents to replace them, and the more expensive the free agents you lose, the better the picks you get."

        Apparently there is some type of mystery formula, but salary is said to be the largest and most significant factor in the determination of the awarded picks.

        While I don't know for certain, I'm curious if the Rams benefited from the loophole of gaining Cooks, Talib, and Peters - all quality players at the positions where they lost Watkins and Johnson - via trade. If the compensatory picks is specifically looking at free agents signed vs. free agents lost, then it's possible players traded for may not count, allowing the Rams to maximize their compensation while still filling those holes via trade.

        Anyways, maybe GC can clarify, but I don't think this has been officially confirmed by the league. The Yahoo article says it's based on typically accurate projections by OverTheCap. Still, there's little reason to doubt it at this point. We know the Rams lost guys who were signed to big deals, so we should be expecting good compensation.


        • #5
          Nick, i just looked it up. Compensatory picks per the nfl are based only on free agents signed and lost. Players "lost" or "acquired" via trade dont count in the net gain/loss calculation. Furthermore, if you sign a player that was released by the prior team (ie Suh) that does not count as an acquired player, nor does a team that released a guy get credit for "losing" a player.

          Ramming speed to all

          general counsel


          • #6
            Can we change the title to "projected", please? No offense GC, but I thought you started this thread because compensatory picks were finally announced. Apparently, that's still not until next month at the start of the offseason. These possible compensatory picks for the Rams have been projected for months.


            • #7
              No offense taken, you are correct Koa, its projected based on an article i read. The title of the thread is misleading, it should be projected.

              ramming speed to all

              general counsel


              • #8
                Cool, thanks GC. Doesn't change the hope though! When taking comp picks into the equation, it certainly paints a more vivid picture of how Snead has been handling affairs. And it certainly softens the initial shock of paying a 1st round pick for Watkins, only for it to be a 1 year player rental. It comes down to this: he has been trading picks for players, on the chance those players come in and excel. If they excel, pay em to stay. If they don't, they are high caliber enough players to fetch $$ on the open market, thus turning into comp picks. It's literally how the Rams got Fowler Jr. With Obo lost for the year & the other guys not playing strong enough for a playoff push, and knowing a 3rd round comp coming, he traded it to the Jags.

                Unbound by Fisher, Snead has been showing smarts and aggression the last 2 years. I'm digging it.


                • #9
                  The really good about this....

                  The Rams made the payoffs which means they get a 1st round pick late. So far I only see the first eleven possible picks in the 2019 draft as being real first round worthy of being first rounders that are immediate plug and play with excellent results--just my view on this coming year's draft. There still is lots of meat left on the bone deep in the 4th round and I am already thinking LB and another DT or NG for need as well as OL and a developmental QB


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                    Because those big-name players weren’t the unrestricted free agents who count toward the compensatory pick formula. Players who arrive in trades, like Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib, don’t count toward the compensatory pick formula. Nor do players who were cut by their previous teams, like Ndamukong Suh. But players who leave your team as unrestricted free agents and sign big-money contracts with other teams do count toward the formula. The Rams lost two such players, Sammy Watkins and Trumaine Johnson, and that’s why they’re expected to get two third-round picks.

                    Other teams expected to get third-round compensatory picks next year include Washington (for losing Kirk Cousins), Minnesota (Case Keenum) and Carolina (Andrew Norwell).

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