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  • Which unrestricted free agent would be your TOP priority to bring back?

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    Ndamukong Suh (DT)
    5.00%
    1
    LaMarcus Joyner (DB)
    0%
    0
    Rodger Saffold (OG)
    65.00%
    13
    Dante Fowler Jr. (EDGE)
    10.00%
    2
    C.J. Anderson (RB)
    20.00%
    4
    Other (please identify in response)
    0%
    0
    None
    0%
    0
    The NFL season is officially over. The offseason has begun!

    From February 19th to March 5th, NFL teams can assign franchise and transition tags to players. The free agency negotiating window - aka the legal tampering window - begins March 11, while free agency officially kicks off on March 13th at 4pm.

    Which player currently on the roster, scheduled for unrestricted free agency, would be your top priority to bring back for 2019?

    Please vote and explain why you made your choice.

  • Torry Holt
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    Originally posted by emuen View Post
    I must admit I have a hard time seeing why anyone would choose Anderson ahead of Saffold on a list like this. Bringing in CJ and making him successful so late in the the season is really a testement to how much OLs mean to RB production. If Saffold leaves, our running game as a whole will suffer. If CJ leaves, we are not even missing a starter.
    Between a starting OL and a back up running back, it's an easy choice... Especially if you consider the value and difficulty to find good players at those position. Blythe was a liability during the SB, every time i watched him he was pushed into the pocket too easily. I want a good OL for Goff and our running game. Good back up RB is kind of easy to find, so Anderson is replaceable with cheaper option I think.

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  • mde8352gorams
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    Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    Of course we saw nothing in the way of two back sets from McVay, so it remains to be seen moving forward whether or not he'd embrace that type of alteration to the offense. One thing is clear: McVay, as good an offensive mind as he is, needs to add some wrinkles. This point was driven home during the Super Bowl.

    But if it comes down to choosing between Saffold and CJ, I'd choose Saffold in a heartbeat. Yu don't just hope you can let Saffold go and pick up someone of equal value. We also don't have the luxury of numerous draft picks to address such a loss.
    I don't disagree with your priority of re-signing Saffold. Perhaps I'm thinking this is a done deal or slam dunk based on his remark during the season that he'd be willing to offer the Rams a hometown discount for re-signing him. That to me is a red flag to other teams, "I'm not interested in leaving LA for more money." It also begs the question, why would another team sign him for more money if he's willing to take less from the Rams. He's an important signing without question.

    Your remark about McVay altering his offense to accommodate a 2 back system is also very true. The Super Bowl exposed his system, which several teams such as the Bears had already figured out towards the end of the season. We know the Patriots had it figured out.

    My desire to sign Anderson isn't simply to add some new running dimension, its to add pass pro for Goff. This is material for a draft thread, but I'm very concerned about next year's divisional teams (i.e. the Cards and the *****) adding elite edge rushers based on their draft positions #1 & #2. Anderson is more sturdy as a pass protector than Gurley. Plus I would like to see us add an in-line TE blocker to add to this strategy. Of course this supports your eagerness to re-sign Saffold as well. A RB that we're overlooking perhaps is John Kelly, who may offer some of what Anderson offers.

    Promises to be an interesting FA period beginning on March 13.

    Go Rams!

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  • NJ Ramsfan1
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    Of course we saw nothing in the way of two back sets from McVay, so it remains to be seen moving forward whether or not he'd embrace that type of alteration to the offense. One thing is clear: McVay, as good an offensive mind as he is, needs to add some wrinkles. This point was driven home during the Super Bowl.

    But if it comes down to choosing between Saffold and CJ, I'd choose Saffold in a heartbeat. Yu don't just hope you can let Saffold go and pick up someone of equal value. We also don't have the luxury of numerous draft picks to address such a loss.

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  • gap
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    Originally posted by emuen View Post
    I must admit I have a hard time seeing why anyone would choose Anderson ahead of Saffold on a list like this. Bringing in CJ and making him successful so late in the the season is really a testement to how much OLs mean to RB production. If Saffold leaves, our running game as a whole will suffer. If CJ leaves, we are not even missing a starter.





    ​​​​​​​What kind of plays can McVay no longer call if CJ leaves?
    Some two back sets that will keep the D guessing as to whether it will be the power running of CJ or the elusive running of TGIII.

    Of course, this will mean that he and Goff both will have to change their mentality of going for the throat on every play and taking the open player in the middle or switching off to a running play. From what I saw of the SB (only saw final three quarters without rewind capabilities), they might have won if they used this philosophy.


    gap

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  • emuen
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    I must admit I have a hard time seeing why anyone would choose Anderson ahead of Saffold on a list like this. Bringing in CJ and making him successful so late in the the season is really a testement to how much OLs mean to RB production. If Saffold leaves, our running game as a whole will suffer. If CJ leaves, we are not even missing a starter.



    Originally posted by gap View Post
    I had to go with CJ because it gives Coach McVay more play calling options.
    ​​​​​​​What kind of plays can McVay no longer call if CJ leaves?

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  • gap
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    I had to go with CJ because it gives Coach McVay more play calling options.

    I too struggled choosing between Saffold and CJ, but I am a bit concerned about Saffold's longevity. While he has been durable the past few years, he has played through a couple injuries that could have been worse. We should remember how much time he missed in his early career and how likely that is to happen as father time adds to the damage this game does to Linemen.


    gap

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  • Ewreck
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    Originally posted by isaacbruce4ever View Post

    I agrees with this. Kinda hard to pick between the two, but Saffold to maintain OL consistency or Anderson to keep Gurley fresh and perhaps force Coach to add two-back sets to the offense.
    Football at this level is a crapshoot in best case scenarios. One injury, "Kupp", changes the whole dynamic. Sometimes an injury or pickup lets a diamond in the rough, "Warner", fall into your lap. Rams management has been very disappointing more than not since I've been a fan.

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  • isaacbruce4ever
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    Originally posted by Ewreck View Post
    Saffold /Anderson
    I agrees with this. Kinda hard to pick between the two, but Saffold to maintain OL consistency or Anderson to keep Gurley fresh and perhaps force Coach to add two-back sets to the offense.

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  • Ewreck
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    Saffold /Anderson

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  • ManofGod
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    This is a tough one. I said
    A. Anderson-he fits a zone scheme perfectly, provided that he is able to make a commitment to get his weight under control and coming into the season in better shape; I would offer him a 1-2 year deal.

    B. Saffold-if you watch the games closely especially the superbowl, Saffold is starting to struggle especially when it comes to pass protection, he is beginning to have a hard time setting an anchor which makes him susceptible to the bull rush.

    Fowler is limited in what he can offer a defense, and despite his skills still struggles to consistently beat 1 on 1 matchups.

    Joyner is a liability in the defensive backfield due to his size & height as was seen several times during the season where he would have had a INT had he been a few feet taller. He also struggles in run defense as he lacks the size to be a "thumper".

    Suh looks so disinterested in football at times. On the tough downs I watched him get pushed back consistently. He did not show up until the playoffs, and stole money for most of the season.

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  • KoaKoi
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    Originally posted by mde8352gorams View Post
    ...
    ...
    I do have a question, isn't Peters at the end of his rookie deal or is he on a 5th year option?

    Go Rams!
    He was optioned, so this coming season is his 5th and final season of his rookie deal.

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  • mde8352gorams
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    I voted for CJ Anderson, but easily could have selected Rodger Saffold who is equally important. My thinking about Anderson is that he adds a potent offensive threat to our running game. I know we have Gurley as our #1 RB but I look at a team like New Orleans and how their offense with Kamara and Ingram is pretty good. Anderson is an upgrade over Brown, who I also like but think we might be able to trade him for a day 3 pick. We seem to have little to no faith in Justin Davis, so perhaps he becomes expendable and Brown stays until his rookie deal is over.

    My other reason for keeping Anderson is that he's a good pass protector and if we learned anything from Sunday its that we need to protect Goff AMAP. That could also include an in-line TE to assist with blocking.

    Saffold is also critical. His play beside Whitworth was excellent and best of all he remained healthy. He did offer a hometown discount in the negotiations during the season, so he should be relatively easy to sign.

    I like Fowler but heard Charlie Casserly make an interesting point that the Rams should not put any money into him as we need to upgrade our LB corps. If Fowler's demands are reasonable I would like to see him stay with us. He already indicated a desire to remain with the Rams. prior to Sunday. Meaning very little if he expects an oversize pay day.

    I don't want to get too far astray here, but our division rivals AZ and SF will be selecting #1 and #2 in the draft and those picks could likely be Nick Bosa and Josh Allen 2 of the better edge rushers in the draft. Blocking for pass pro and running will be key for the Rams to ensure for next year and beyond.

    I won't shed any tears if Suh and Joyner leave. I do have a question, isn't Peters at the end of his rookie deal or is he on a 5th year option?

    Go Rams!

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  • NJ Ramsfan1
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    There is a reason teams prioritize the offensive line. So much of what a team does offensively is predicated on having quality O-linemen. QBs like Andrew Luck get killed without protection. And guys like Brady excel because they're rarely touched. Surely we Rams fans remember the not-too-distant past with busts like Greg Robinson, Jason Brown, Jason Smith, Alex Barron, etc. When you have the opportunity to get or retain a top guy, you do so. And that is why I feel Saffold is the choice here. He is a veteran who provides solid performance. And as others have mentioned, we will need to re-tool this line. Whitworth was an excellent pick-up for us, but father time is the enemy of us all. And Sullivan is no spring chicken, either.

    CJ Anderson is an interesting case, but I'd hate to give up on Malcolm Brown, who was looking like a real solid back-up before the injury. And as good a job as Anderson did for us, he WAS cut by several teams- which makes me question whether or not he can sustain excellent performance. Plus- I'd think he'd look for an opportunity to start- an opportunity he will not get with a healthy Gurley. (Of course, we have to figure out what the hell is going on there...)

    Fowler is a decent player whose production won't match the numbers he'll want. Ditto for Joyner, who we should not overpay under any circumstances. And don't be fooled by Suh's decent playoff performances. That doesn't erase a season's worth of sub par efforts.

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  • KoaKoi
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    I agree with the posts above. Sully and Whit are on limited time and Saffold has more in the tank. I wouldn't give up the farm on him, but that's part of the reason he's a priority. Get the talks going now and find a way to lock him up for a few years and allow some time for draft picks to round out the future of the OL. Rams already extended Havenstein, and will have 2nd year players in Noteboom & Allen at T and C, respectively. Given their little playing time, it's hard for us to truly know what what they bring to the table. If they're ready to go, then Saffold's value drops accordingly. But something tells me that at 30 years old, he's got great value for another few years.

    I like Joyner. But he's just not the top priority just yet and the problem with pursuing him is he's going to look for a multi-year deal. (I'm not sure I like the prospect of Joyner being our safety for the next 5 years). He hasn't been flashy this year, but he willingly comes up to try to lay on some wood with his little body. His greatest asset has been cleaning up after Marcus Peters' mistakes in coverage. For nothing else, he's useful in that category. And he seems to pair well with Johnny john john. But if a stellar safety falls in the draft, though, I think the Rams have to seriously consider taking him. Hopefully, Joyner will be willing to do a 2 or 3 year deal... thus allowing the Rams to find Peters' replacement. If not, maybe one last tag for next year while his replacement is grooming, though I would worry another tag would disgruntle him. So ultimately, he may be a cast off.

    Fowler, I like him too, but not as much as what I think his demand will be on the open market; someone's going to pay him a lot. He brings good pressure so I think he'd be worth throwing an offer at, but he doesn't blow my skirt up as much as I'd like. Sadly, I'm more enticed by the 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick that'll come from losing him, more than having him gobble up cap money for a job somebody else could do just as well at (looking at you Obo!). I think if I'm Snead, I have a heart to heart with sonuvbum and see how married to the guy he is, and drop some encouragement for actively looking for a cheaper someone else to take over at the outside.

    Brown will be back so I'd just throw a one year deal at C.J. Tell him he can try to take away Brown's job. A 3 way battle between him, Brown, and Kelly in training camp would be sweet to watch.

    Suh is bye bye. His brain tells him to play the way he always has, but his body is not that player anymore. For his price, there are tons of other hogs available at play at nose. Time to find someone new to pair with AD and Brockers (that is unless Suh wants to play on a super cheap contract). And by super cheap, i'm talking like half of what he made this past season. He'd be worth keeping for that.... I just don't think he'd even remotely consider something like that. And that's ok. Good luck Suh. Hey, maybe you can go get the Rams a compensatory pick too!

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