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  • Ewreck
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    Originally posted by adarian_too View Post

    So, you're a subscriber to the NationalEnquirer-Fact-Based-Reporting Theory, huh? With apologies to the Men-in-Black, you might be interested in this hidden tidbit that's hasn't received much coverage:
    Agent K Mutters Outloud
    What kind of "shared load running back arrangement" would scare BeliCheckMate so bad that he'd risk regretting trading B. Cooks to the Rams for a 1st rounder?
    Let's check the hot sheets.
    ZOOM-IN ON NEWSSTAND - DAYTIME

    CLOSE UP of various supermarket tabloids as a hand flips through them.
    There are headlines like "RAM'S ARE LAMBS" and "REFS FROM SOCAL TILT N.O. PINBALL GAME!" and "MOB BOSS TAKES 400-1 ODDS RAMS SCORE ONLY 3".

    K and J are at a downtown newsstand. K is furiously searching through the tabloids; J is standing behind him, a tad embarrassed.

    Agent J

    These are the hot sheets?

    K pulls a copy of something that looks very similar to the NATIONAL ENQUIRER from the stand and gives the guy a two-headed coin.

    Agent K

    Best damn investigative reporting on the
    planet. But hey, go ahead, read the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times if you want. They get lucky sometimes.

    Agent J

    You're actually looking for FACTS in a
    supermarket tabloid?

    Agent K

    Not looking for. Found.

    He SMACKS the paper down in front of J, the pages turned open to a headline in typeface so large one would think it's the Second Coming:

    Chronic_He admits:

    "ALIEN STOLE SEAN'S BRAIN!"
    And balls.

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  • adarian_too
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    Originally posted by Ewreck View Post
    I'm actually shocked people still buy newspapers. There's more truth and facts in the National Enquirer and Mad Magazine.
    So, you're a subscriber to the NationalEnquirer-Fact-Based-Reporting Theory, huh? With apologies to the Men-in-Black, you might be interested in this hidden tidbit that's hasn't received much coverage:
    Agent K Mutters Outloud
    What kind of "shared load running back arrangement" would scare BeliCheckMate so bad that he'd risk regretting trading B. Cooks to the Rams for a 1st rounder?
    Let's check the hot sheets.
    ZOOM-IN ON NEWSSTAND - DAYTIME

    CLOSE UP of various supermarket tabloids as a hand flips through them.
    There are headlines like "RAM'S ARE LAMBS" and "REFS FROM SOCAL TILT N.O. PINBALL GAME!" and "MOB BOSS TAKES 400-1 ODDS RAMS SCORE ONLY 3".

    K and J are at a downtown newsstand. K is furiously searching through the tabloids; J is standing behind him, a tad embarrassed.

    Agent J

    These are the hot sheets?

    K pulls a copy of something that looks very similar to the NATIONAL ENQUIRER from the stand and gives the guy a two-headed coin.

    Agent K

    Best damn investigative reporting on the
    planet. But hey, go ahead, read the NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times if you want. They get lucky sometimes.

    Agent J

    You're actually looking for FACTS in a
    supermarket tabloid?

    Agent K

    Not looking for. Found.

    He SMACKS the paper down in front of J, the pages turned open to a headline in typeface so large one would think it's the Second Coming:

    Chronic_He admits:

    "ALIEN STOLE SEAN'S BRAIN!"

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  • Ewreck
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    Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post

    I learned to read at age 4 by reading baseball box scores. To this day, I actually still do buy a daily paper. And there's no doubt most, especially big city newspapers, slant their coverage. But they're no less truthful than most news shows or any other media outlet.
    Unfortunately political slant/biases and opinions have taken over every corner of news, sports, and any type of media easily available to us, the mass consumer. Getting to the "facts" of any story today takes a lot more work than it should and I take everything now with a grain of salt. Still waiting on the real TG story.

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  • NJ Ramsfan1
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    Originally posted by Ewreck View Post
    I'm actually shocked people still buy newspapers. There's more truth and facts in the National Enquirer and Mad Magazine.
    I learned to read at age 4 by reading baseball box scores. To this day, I actually still do buy a daily paper. And there's no doubt most, especially big city newspapers, slant their coverage. But they're no less truthful than most news shows or any other media outlet.

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  • Curly Horns
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    Personally, I don't like it.

    But, to me, it's no different than the trash talk on twitter or message boards. Never fails, after a big loss, fans start the name calling and finger pointing. Many fans are just sorry ass sore losers. And it's a big reason the NFL doesn't mean as much to me as in the past. I'd really rather watch a good golf match.

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  • Ewreck
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    I'm actually shocked people still buy newspapers. There's more truth and facts in the National Enquirer and Mad Magazine.

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  • MoonJoe
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    I am still in recovery (listening to lots of rock and roll and not much sports talk) but they did cross the line here. Any LA Rams fan know this is a slam to our team. In this move the Times has declared that they do not support the Rams, which is no surprise. This publication has been slipping for years and losing readership. They are in the process of moving out of their downtown building and into a suburb in the south bay town of El Segundo which tells me they are not the force they once were. I had already cancelled my subscription after 35 years because they no longer report news, but instead give their opinion on it. That's ok though, the Times needs the Rams, not the other way around.

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  • Ewreck
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    They should screen print that on Tshirts and paint it on the locker room walls until their next Super Bowl appearance. If history is any type of indicator they might be looking at it for a long time.

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  • r8rh8rmike
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    Originally posted by kman1521 View Post
    no, I don't think so in my opinion...I don't get offended at all if someone calls the rams "Lambs". its just part of being a sportsfan..
    Exactly. It's just part of being a sports fan, which is the context I take offense to the term "Lambs". I feel the same way about "Same old sorry ass Rams". In the sports sense, I see both as purposeful insults. Again, IN THE SPORTS SENSE.

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  • adarian_too
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    Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    As an aside, the person who writes a newspaper article DOES NOT write the headline. That is done by someone else at the Paper.
    Headline writers are like gossip columnists – all hype, no substance. I will say, I have not published if someone insists on titling my piece. Only I get to mischaracterize my intent. This is what they do, mischaracterize things. I'm just not sure if they are stupid or it's the editors who are more stupid for enabling the junk. It's not that the term "Lambs" is pejoratively insulting (I know, go look it up ...), it's that it's not an accurate characterization of the overall play.

    NRC's seemingly unjustly penalized hit was not lamb-like. After a couple of up-the-middle gashes, Suh's "closeline" of a NE RB on the right side of the scrimmage line was not lamb-like. NRC's play on the ball resulting in Littleton's Int was not lamb-like. Franklin-Myers' sack and FF was not lamb-like. The clean tackle of Gronk that resulted in that hobbling thigh bruise was not lamb-like. And although it bent at the wrong time, the overall play of the D was not lamb-like. The O definitely was de-horned, but the D put its head down and butted horns for 3 /1/2 quarters. Just another mischaracterizing headline – what's new anymore. All one can ever do about righting a wrong, is to go vote, but with your wallet.

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  • kman1521
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    Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post

    Without question, it's a derogatory slur used by bitter rivals and those that hate the Rams. It's meant to demean, mock, insult, disrespect, and belittle. The LA Times had no business using it. Do you really think "derogatory slur" can't apply in a sports context as a pejorative?
    no, I don't think so in my opinion...I don't get offended at all if someone calls the rams "Lambs". its just part of being a sportsfan..

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  • r8rh8rmike
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    Originally posted by kman1521 View Post
    derogatory slur?? come on man, I think that's taking it a little too far to describe it that way. We are talking about a name of a football team, not some racially charged comments about people
    Without question, it's a derogatory slur used by bitter rivals and those that hate the Rams. It's meant to demean, mock, insult, disrespect, and belittle. The LA Times had no business using it. Do you really think "derogatory slur" can't apply in a sports context as a pejorative?

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  • kman1521
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    Originally posted by NJ Ramsfan1 View Post
    As an aside, the person who writes a newspaper article DOES NOT write the headline. That is done by someone else at the Paper.

    I kind of agree with Mike- the term "lambs" is a well-known insult from the days when the Rams were horrible, re-surfacing periodically when a rival or enemy wants to rub salt in the wounds.
    I'm all for fans calling out poor performance, especially on the big stage, but for a well-known newspaper serving a team in a new market, Ii's not really a good look nor is it particularly original.

    Kman is absolutely right: The NY/NJ media does this regularly!


    Not only is that done regularly here in NYC area, no one makes a big stink about it. Maybe I have a bone to pick with the fans in LA. This team just had 2 good seasons, and yet the rams home games have more of the opponents fans at the games then rams fans?? Yet they are going to whine about a silly headline trashing the team?? That makes no sense to me at all. Start going to the games and supporting your home team, if you are going to be up in arms about a silly headline in a paper. I am not referring to anyone specific here, just LA in general if indeed people are up in arms about this headline

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  • NJ Ramsfan1
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    As an aside, the person who writes a newspaper article DOES NOT write the headline. That is done by someone else at the Paper.

    I kind of agree with Mike- the term "lambs" is a well-known insult from the days when the Rams were horrible, re-surfacing periodically when a rival or enemy wants to rub salt in the wounds.
    I'm all for fans calling out poor performance, especially on the big stage, but for a well-known newspaper serving a team in a new market, Ii's not really a good look nor is it particularly original.

    Kman is absolutely right: The NY/NJ media does this regularly!



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  • kman1521
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    Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
    I don't have a problem with a critical headline, but to use the term "Lambs", which is derogatory slur used by hated rivals to mock the Rams, was WAY out of bounds IMO. Shame on the LA Times, which has become an agenda driven rag.
    derogatory slur?? come on man, I think that's taking it a little too far to describe it that way. We are talking about a name of a football team, not some racially charged comments about people

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    By: Jake Elenbogen

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    Sensabaugh was invited to Sportscenter Face to Face segment with Hannah Storm, where he had the following to say about his arrival in L.A.:

    “You know when I was going through free agency, for some reason or another I never expected to be a part of the Rams. I remember when the owners’ meetings were going on and they announced the Rams were moving to L.A., and I was like man that has to be tough for those guys, moving cross-country from St. Louis to L.A.”

    Sensabaugh is now definitely enjoying the sunny skies and sandy beaches of Los Angeles though, and that is probably one of the main reasons he signed with the Rams. He had this to say on the aftermath of the Rams big move:

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  • stlramman
    Former Rams bemoan lack of identity for L.A Rams
    by stlramman
    I thought this article was interesting, how some former Ram greats feel no connection to the St.Louis Rams.


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    Christine Cotter / Los Angeles Times
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    Bill Plaschke
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    Throughout the NFL today, former players will roam their old stadium homes, shaking hands, hearing cheers, spreading history.

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    Throughout the NFL today, former players will provide living links to current ones, on sidelines, in broadcast booths, a weekly melding of past and present.

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    "I'm not a big NFL fan," he said. "The history that I had here is gone."

    They were once the cornerstones of Los Angeles' most popular franchise, the builders of one of the nation's most solid sporting skylines.

    Today they don't even have a working address.

    They are legends without legacy, history without memory, stars of a team that no longer exists in a town that no longer cares.

    Almost 14 years after the late Georgia Rosenbloom packed up the Rams and dragged them to St. Louis, they are the strange collection of boxes that remain.

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    "There's no place for our memories to go, there's nothing in our past that we can touch," Harrah said. "We're lost."

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  • r8rh8rmike
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    As a southern California native, this article is as painful to write as it will be for the three or so Los Angeles readers who will stumble upon it (more to come on the attention spans of southern California sports fans in a little while).

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  • hpbadger
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    Ok. I am new to this bbs so this may have been covered before but I have read posts referring to "lackluster support" in the LA area for the Rams. I did not live in LA but remember seeing the LA Coliseum on TV jam packed with 70, 80, and 90 thousand Rams fans at times. After they moved to Anaheim I thought the angels stadium looked pretty full on the idiot box as well. In the 1979 Super bowl nfl films video there is a moronic reference to LA fans "putting on a show" or just there to be seen etc. while the Steelers fans presumably eat, breath and sleep Steelers football in between trips to the steel meal! Anyways, I never bought into this bidness about LA Rams fans not caring about the Rams....maybe some Los Angelinos on this bbs can expand on this . Thank you.
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  • NJ Ramsfan1
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    -09-11-2017, 04:46 AM
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