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  • Rams Opt Not to Pick-Up John Sullivan's 2019 Option

    While many of us discussed how the Rams need to move on from John Sullivan at center, that became reality today as the Rams announced their intention to allow Sullivan to become a free agent. This adds another piece of evidence that the Rams intend to revamp the O-Line for next season. While the OT's are in place the middle of the line will likely lose Rodger Saffold and now Sullivan, plus I believe the Rams are looking to upgrade from Blythe as well.

    The key motivation I believe is that the Rams wish to become younger and more athletic at the OG & C positions. The factor driving this is the understanding by the FO that AZ and SF are going to add elite edge and DT players in the upcoming draft.

    The issues involving Gurley may also fuel a need for better run blockers too.

    Go Rams!

  • #2
    The professional side of me says: "Thank you Mr. Sullivan for your tenure here with the L.A. Rams, we as supporters greatly appreciate your contributions to this team."

    The street sides says: "This guy aged before our very eyes this season, and almost single handedly cost us the Superbowl along with Blythe, he simply had to go. Both Goff & Gurley are safer with him gone".

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    • #3
      I agree with both of the above posts. Sullivan filled a need for us and gave us some quality play and leadership as we blossomed into in elite team. By the same token, he slowed considerably at times toward the end and played poorly in the Super Bowl. Not a good idea to have 3/5 of our line in their 30s: the Rams desire to get younger on the line while saving some bucks are smart decisions moving forward.

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      • #4
        I love what Sullivan did for the Rams, but with his age, he's a breakdown waiting to happen. The Rams need to get younger and more stable at the center position.

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        • #5
          Agree to all the above. Here's to hoping Allen is ready to take over at Center (and that Noteboom is versatile enough to take over at LG if we lose Saffold).

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