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  • Gurley's Knee Injury Apparently Happened Much Earlier In 2018 Than Anyone Thought

    Todd Gurley's knee injury apparently happened much earlier in 2018 than anyone thought

    There's a new twist in the story of Todd Gurley's knee

    by John Breech @johnbreech
    Jun 7, 2019 at 5:23 pm ET • 3 min read


    When it comes to the health of Todd Gurley's left knee, a new piece of information seems to trickle out every week, and this week, that new piece of information is coming from Rams preseason radio analyst Maurice Jones-Drew.

    During a Thursday appearance on NFL Network, MJD revealed that Gurley was apparently dealing with his knee injury much earlier than anyone previously thought. According to Jones-Drew, who said he talked to Gurley this week, the injury actually happened during a Week 1 game against the Raiders, and then slowly got worse as the season went on.

    "I think first and foremost, there's a lot of attention going about the knee and that issue, and yes, he was banged up throughout the season," Jones-Drew said. "He got hurt in Week 1, played through it the rest of the season. He got banged up in Week 1, he played through it, and he kind of just got worn down toward the end of the season."

    As if there weren't enough questions about the health of Gurley's knee, Jones-Drew just added a bunch more. For instance, if Gurley was banged up, then he should have been on the injury report. Of course, it's possible that he didn't feel he was hurting enough to be listed on the injury report at that point in the season.

    If Gurley did get injured in Week 1, that means he played in 13 more games before the Rams decided to pull the plug on the rest of his regular season. Gurley's knee caused him to miss the final two games of the year. At the time, the Rams attributed Gurley's absence to soreness and inflammation.

    Since the end of the season, there has been nonstop speculation about Gurley's knee. Back in March, CBSSports.com reported that there was so much concern over the knee that a stem cell procedure was being considered to fix it. And then there was also the report the Gurley is dealing with arthritis.

    Adding to the speculation that Gurley isn't quite healed yet is the fact that he hasn't participated in any of the Rams offseason workouts, although Jones-Drew claims that's by design.

    "Todd has a plan to be ready throughout the course of the season," Jones-Drew said. "They want to be sure that they don't run Todd as much as they did last year and the year before all to where he can't perform the last two games of the year, he's got to take a rest to get him prepared for the playoffs. They want to make sure he's fresh year-round and I think that's important because Todd Gurley is an exceptional player."

    Jones-Drew's comments echoed what Rams coach Sean McVay told CBSSports.com in March.

    "We're going to implement a plan to have him attack it to get that knee back to feeling full strength, feeling good based on just the amount of work that he's gotten," McVay said.

    With the knee still a concern though, Gurley has apparently made the decision to lose some weight before the 2019 season in order to take pressure off his banged-up leg. If you're a fantasy owner wondering how to play this, Jones-Drew did offer a prediction for how much he thinks Gurley will play this year.

    "I think you can expect (22 touches per game). But he may not be on the field for 80 snaps," Jones-Drew said. "He may be on the field for 60 or 50 snaps instead of having to be on the field for 16 games playing 80 snaps to 90 snaps a game. That's not gonna happen anymore."

    One thing to keep an eye will be whether or not Gurley participates in minicamp next week. The Rams kick off their mandatory minicamp on June 11, and if Gurley's still not practicing, that's not a great sign, considering his knee has already had four months of rest.

  • #2
    This whole situation is just so convoluted. Was it an injury, or was he dealing with arthritis? Either way, it really doesn't matter at this point. He'll never be completely healed, and we'll be lucky to get a few more years of limited contributions from Gurley. Such a tragedy for arguably the best all-around player in the NFL, and the Rams offense which revolved around him.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by R8rh8rmike View Post

      According to Jones-Drew, who said he talked to Gurley this week, the injury actually happened during a Week 1 game against the Raiders, and then slowly got worse as the season went on.

      "I think first and foremost, there's a lot of attention going about the knee and that issue, and yes, he was banged up throughout the season," Jones-Drew said. "He got hurt in Week 1, played through it the rest of the season. He got banged up in Week 1, he played through it, and he kind of just got worn down toward the end of the season."


      Jones-Drew's comments echoed what Rams coach Sean McVay told CBSSports.com in March.

      "We're going to implement a plan to have him attack it to get that knee back to feeling full strength, feeling good based on just the amount of work that he's gotten," McVay said.


      The Rams kick off their mandatory minicamp on June 11, and if Gurley's still not practicing, that's not a great sign, considering his knee has already had four months of rest.

      "Handle With Care! / Fragile! / Do Not Bend!"

      'o' ...Deteriorating since week 1?

      Wow. Way to go, MJD, kicking our hopes when we're down.

      But even as the odds become less favorable regarding TG's health and strength, or so it seems, one can only imagine a medical marvel to get Gurley 'up and running' to expectations, to reasonably high expectations.
      Last edited by RealRam; -06-09-2019, 08:40 PM. Reason: Format

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      • #4
        Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post
        This whole situation is just so convoluted. Was it an injury, or was he dealing with arthritis? Either way, it really doesn't matter at this point. He'll never be completely healed, and we'll be lucky to get a few more years of limited contributions from Gurley. Such a tragedy for arguably the best all-around player in the NFL, and the Rams offense which revolved around him.
        I agree with what you say Mike. My thought is that McVay will find a way to work Todd into the offense without him taking the pounding of running between the tackles. Basically, I'm saying short passes that use his open field running skills until defenses get the reads on those plays which may open more holes inside. For what the Rams are paying him, he'll have to be more than just an afterthought on the offense. Having Henderson and Brown will lighten his load somewhat, plus I'm still wanting to see what Kelly may be able to contribute. I'm confident McVay has had an off season to figure out the best way to utilize TG.

        Go Rams!

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        • #5
          Personally, I kind of suspected it happened Week 11 against the Chiefs, as I recall there being a pretty rough looking tackle near the sidelines. But apparently the injury happened much earlier than that, which makes you wonder why this situation has been so underreported on the Rams' side of things. Regardless of when it happens, it's an issue they'll have to monitor now. And while I don't think the Rams have the talent behind Gurley to immediately replace his production if he should go down for an extended period of time, I do believe they have more than enough to compliment him and keep him fresh this season while perhaps filling his shoes in short term work if need be. How that talent - specifically Henderson - develops over the next couple of years will be key, along with Gurley's own health and maintenance. I can't see the Rams getting out from that contract for another 2-3 seasons, at least not without some pain along the way.

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          • r8rh8rmike
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            It's been two weeks since the Super Bowl and the mystery surrounding Todd Gurley's strange absence has yet to be cleared up.

            All along, the Rams have maintained that Gurley was healthy during the playoffs and attributed his lack of playing time to football reasons -- with Gurley saying he simply got out-played by C.J. Anderson in the NFC Championship Game and Sean McVay saying he didn't do a good enough job getting his star running back involved. To no one's surprise, neither of those responses have been considered satisfactory answers to the biggest mystery of the playoffs.

            On Tuesday, Anderson provided more support to the theory that Gurley was dealing with a knee injury during the playoffs, hence his decreased workload. During an appearance on FS1's "Undisputed," Anderson revealed that when he arrived in Los Angeles, Gurley was more hurt than anyone initially thought, including the Rams and Gurley.

            "He was more hurt than what we thought," Anderson said. "The injury was a little bit more than what everybody in the building thought, including himself."

            So what was the injury? Anderson described it as a sprained knee, but he couldn't call it that with any kind of certainty.

            "He'd never really tell me. It was tough. I would say sprained knee," Anderson said. "Obviously, it's the same knee injury he's had before in his career. Obviously, I had surgery on my meniscus and once you have a knee, you always have a knee. So it aggravates. If he was getting a lot of touches earlier in the year -- obviously, him being one of the best running backs that probably was the case."

            Gurley dealt with a knee injury at both the beginning and the end of the regular season, which led to the Rams sitting him for their final two games of the season and signing Anderson to fill in. Anderson played well in relief of Gurley in Weeks 16 and 17, rushing for 299 yards and two touchdowns as the Rams secured a first-round playoff bye.

            When it came time for their playoff run to begin against the Cowboys in the divisional round, Anderson and Gurley shared touches, and both of them thrived. Gurley rushed for 115 yards and a touchdown on 16 carries while Anderson racked up 123 yards and two touchdowns on 23 carries.

            Gurley certainly looked healthy.

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            But Gurley was almost entirely absent in the NFC title game, garnering four carries for 10 yards and dropping a couple of passes in the early going while Anderson carried the ball 16 times for 44 yards.

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          • Nick
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            Rams running back Todd Gurley has a knee injury, and there’s a chance he may not be able to play on Sunday.

            Gurley has yet to practice this week. Asked by reporters on Thursday whether he could play if the game were today, Gurley said, “That’s a tough question. I haven’t tried to run. So, yeah, that’s a tough question.”

            He nevertheless expressed optimism, despite the fact that he hasn’t yet tried to run.

            “I think I’ll be fine, man,” Gurley said. “Just taking it day-by-day recovering, resting, trying to feel better.”

            If he plays, it likely will happen without practice; he said he doesn’t plan on participating at all this week. He wants to play, obviously; however, he seems to recognize the chance that he won’t.

            “We’ve got a game to win,” Gurley said. “I’m pretty sure me being out there — if I can be out there — I would put this team in a good position to help them win. So why wouldn’t I be out there if I can play? In the situation that we are — we just lost two. We’re trying to get a first-round bye. That’s what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to win.”

            Coach Sean McVay has said he won’t risk Gurley’s availability for the postseason by playing him in the final two regular-season games, if he’s not healthy enough to play.

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            -12-21-2018, 08:43 AM
          • r8rh8rmike
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            Eleven months ago, Todd Gurley signed a four-year, $57.5 million extension that made him the NFL's highest-paid running back -- and rightly so. He rushed for 1,305 yards, added another 788 receiving yards and totaled 19 touchdowns in the 2017 season.

            Gurley had a strong 2018 campaign, too, with 1,251 rushing yards, 581 receiving and 21 touchdowns. But a knee injury limited him during the postseason when he had just four carries in the conference championship game and 10 carries two weeks later in the Super Bowl. In both games, Gurley combined for 45 yards and one touchdown.

            At the combine in March, CBSSports.com's John Breech reported that there was so much concern over the knee that a stem cell procedure was being considered. That was in addition to a report that Gurley is dealing with arthritis.

            Concern about Gurley's health for the upcoming season would be understandable -- except that Gurley doesn't sound worried at all.

            "I had bigger problems to worry about coming out of college," he told reporters Tuesday at the start of Rams mandatory minicamp, via NFL.com. "This is small."

            Gurley continued: "I've be hearing stuff all my life. Just whatever growing up. Hearing comments or whatever that is. All of the stuff don't really get to me. I feel like I do a great job, got a great supporting cast. ... It's football. It's the game I've been playing my whole life, so it's nothing new to me. I know what I'm capable of. I know what type of person I am. No big deal to me."

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          • Nick
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            INDIANAPOLIS​ — There is finally​ some​ clarity​ on the condition​ of Todd Gurley’s​ left knee,​ and the​ news over the​ weekend painted​​ a gloomy picture for the Rams’ star running back.

            On Friday, John Breech of CBS Sports reported that the Rams might consider stem cell treatment for Gurley’s knee, which was surgically repaired in 2014 after an ACL tear during his junior year at Georgia. On Saturday, Jeff Howe of The Athletic reported that recent tests have revealed Gurley is dealing with arthritis in the knee.

            Both revelations cast doubt on the future of Gurley, who signed a four-year contract extension worth $60 million last summer that takes him through the 2023 season and guarantees him $45 million.

            With head coach Sean McVay talking about putting a plan in place to manage Gurley’s workload and general manager Les Snead pondering the potential need to add another running back alongside him, a dreaded question the Rams and their fans never wanted to contemplate is now absolutely valid.

            Are Gurley’s best years behind him?

            Since arthritis is a common occurrence in knees that have been surgically repaired, it is possible Gurley could be suffering from the condition. An orthopedic surgeon, speaking anonymously to The Athletic, said: “When you use the words arthritis in a knee that had an ACL back in college, that’s the connection. You’ve lost the alignment, and the tires are wearing out prematurely.”

            If that is indeed the case, it creates an ominous situation for Gurley based on multiple doctors consulted, including Dr. Jesse Morse of Florida Orthopedic Specialists.

            “Without personally examining him, my answers will obviously be very generalized, but unfortunately I believe Gurley has peaked and will not be able to repeat his record-breaking effectiveness,” Dr. Morse said. “He could possibly have one to two more years of elite top-five running back talent, but he will likely lose a step.”

            Publicly and privately, the Rams are not indicating anything more beyond the recent comments by McVay and Snead that Gurley was dealing with “wear and tear” issues late in the season.

            McVay said this week at the NFL Scouting Combine that surgery is not planned for Gurley. According to the doctors consulted by The Athletic, Gurley clearly has a condition that requires management rather than an injury that needs surgery.

            As far as stem cell treatment — which some doctors insist is a radical and not-yet-proven treatment that should be approached cautiously — Rams sources said no such course of action has been discussed within the organization.

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          • Nick
            Where in the World is Todd Gurley?
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            Forgive my weak attempt at a Carmen Sandiego reference, but I think the question needs to be asked again and again until we have an answer.

            Through the regular season, Gurley averaged 18.2 rushes per game and four receptions per game. In the playoffs, he rushed the ball ten times a game on average and caught four passes in three contests.

            This offense is built through Gurley. The strength of the running game is what makes play action so effective. Finding ways to get the ball in Gurley's hands should be priority number one for anyone making decisions about this offense, yet it seems like after his injury, and more specifically after the Dallas playoff win, Gurley just disappeared from the gameplan.

            There are some people across the internet - I know because I've seen the responses in the Twitter feeds of those who cover the Rams - who are abandoning ship on Gurley. I think it's way too soon for that kind of overreaction. But it really does make you wonder, in the biggest game of his career, why Sean McVay didn't do more to make Gurley a focal point of the gameplan.

            The Rams insist he's completely healthy, and Gurley does as well. I wouldn't be surprised, though, to find out in a couple of weeks that he had some nagging injury that needs cleaned up over the offseason. Still, it would be rather baffling if that's the case after so much insistence to the contrary.

            It kind of makes me wonder if there's something else going on behind the scenes, some kind of personal issue that Gurley is going through and the Rams have been trying to help him by easing his workload or not putting too much on his plate. I have no evidence or anything to base this off of, aside from just the mere speculation that will occur when someone who normally is so heavily part of a gameplan gets left behind so strangely.

            Either way, the Rams need to spend this offseason looking in the mirror and figuring out why, when all the chips were on the table, they kept their stud workhorse on the sidelines as much as they did. Maybe Gurley just needs an offseason away from football to get back to his normal self or to recover from whatever ails him. Let's hope that's the case, and we're not looking at the symptoms of a bigger problem here, either for Gurley or McVay....
            -02-04-2019, 04:04 AM
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