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  • Todd Gurley On Knee Injury: 'This Is Small'

    Todd Gurley on knee injury: 'This is small,' plan is to have him ready for Rams opener vs. Panthers

    Gurley only had 14 carries in the Rams' final two postseason games, including the Super Bowl loss to the Patriots

    by Ryan Wilson
    @ryanwilsonCBS
    Jun 12, 2019 at 10:45 am ET • 2 min read
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    Eleven months ago, Todd Gurley signed a four-year, $57.5 million extension that made him the NFL's highest-paid running back -- and rightly so. He rushed for 1,305 yards, added another 788 receiving yards and totaled 19 touchdowns in the 2017 season.

    Gurley had a strong 2018 campaign, too, with 1,251 rushing yards, 581 receiving and 21 touchdowns. But a knee injury limited him during the postseason when he had just four carries in the conference championship game and 10 carries two weeks later in the Super Bowl. In both games, Gurley combined for 45 yards and one touchdown.

    At the combine in March, CBSSports.com's John Breech reported that there was so much concern over the knee that a stem cell procedure was being considered. That was in addition to a report that Gurley is dealing with arthritis.

    Concern about Gurley's health for the upcoming season would be understandable -- except that Gurley doesn't sound worried at all.

    "I had bigger problems to worry about coming out of college," he told reporters Tuesday at the start of Rams mandatory minicamp, via NFL.com. "This is small."

    Gurley continued: "I've be hearing stuff all my life. Just whatever growing up. Hearing comments or whatever that is. All of the stuff don't really get to me. I feel like I do a great job, got a great supporting cast. ... It's football. It's the game I've been playing my whole life, so it's nothing new to me. I know what I'm capable of. I know what type of person I am. No big deal to me."

    And perhaps it's not but the Rams did select Memphis running back Darrell Henderson in the third round, typically something a team with other needs (and no first-round pick) wouldn't do with a depth chart that includes the league's best back and a solid backup (in Malcolm Brown) behind him.

    But like Gurley, coach Sean McVay sounds optimistic about Gurley's knee.

    "I feel real good," McVay told reporters. "Talking to Todd, he looks really good, and feels really good. I think the plan that we set out a few months back has been followed exactly the way that we wanted it to get done and now it's about six more weeks till we really report back to camp.

    "The intention is to get him back, ready to go. This was the intention, this was part of the long term plan to get him for the opener against the Panthers, but when we start camp that represents when he can get on the field and do some things and start to compete with his teammates.

    "I don't know if you'd wanna use the term recovery but he has a very good training program that he's taken part in with Travelle Gaines and he's done some things over here that we thought would be good from a maintenance standpoint. That was what all parties felt like was the best thing, and most importantly what Todd thought was best. Todd's earned the right for us to listen to him, and take everything into consideration."

    Last week NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported that Gurley's days as a "every-down bell cow are probably over just based on his knee, his age, the position, the amount of carries he's had."

    Gurley, who carries a dead-cap charge of $34.8 million in 2019 and $25.6 million in 2020, averages $14.4 million on the deal he signed last summer.

  • #2
    Spoken like a typical 24 year old...

    We'll just have to wait and see.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KoaKoi View Post
      Spoken like a typical 24 year old...

      We'll just have to wait and see.
      My first thought was a bit of delusion. I love that he's fighting, but he's facing the most serious medical condition in his life with the arthritis, and it's certainly not a small thing. Like you said, we'll just have to wait and see how it all plays out.

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      • #4
        I'm 43 and love to play soccer on the weekends. My right knee has an athritic issue. The pounding can make it excruciating following a match and that soreness can linger nearly the entire workweek. At 24, I'm sure he feels really confident about it. But as people my age and above well know, all we have to do is sleep wrong to get injured. I think he's just young and doesn't fathom what's in store when his body doesn't regenerate like it used to. Most rb's don't make it past 30. There's some stuff online that talk about 29 being the RB age wall. Everybody's different obviously, but I think his shelf life is now half that (meaning 27-28).

        So I think he'll be able to manage it a few more years, but the rigors of NFL play are a ticking time bomb on that knee. After the Rams contract is up, I doubt any team gives him more than a single year contract, unless he's blowing things up and this past year ended up just being a fluke.
        Last edited by KoaKoi; -06-19-2019, 01:04 PM. Reason: clarification

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        • r8rh8rmike
          C.J. Anderson: Gurley Was 'More Hurt Than We Thought" When He Signed With Rams
          by r8rh8rmike
          C.J. Anderson says Todd Gurley was 'more hurt than what we thought' when he signed with the Rams

          Gurley barely saw the field in the playoffs, but the Rams have insisted that he was completely healthy

          by Sean Wagner-McGough
          @seanjwagner
          15 hrs ago • 4 min read

          It's been two weeks since the Super Bowl and the mystery surrounding Todd Gurley's strange absence has yet to be cleared up.

          All along, the Rams have maintained that Gurley was healthy during the playoffs and attributed his lack of playing time to football reasons -- with Gurley saying he simply got out-played by C.J. Anderson in the NFC Championship Game and Sean McVay saying he didn't do a good enough job getting his star running back involved. To no one's surprise, neither of those responses have been considered satisfactory answers to the biggest mystery of the playoffs.

          On Tuesday, Anderson provided more support to the theory that Gurley was dealing with a knee injury during the playoffs, hence his decreased workload. During an appearance on FS1's "Undisputed," Anderson revealed that when he arrived in Los Angeles, Gurley was more hurt than anyone initially thought, including the Rams and Gurley.

          "He was more hurt than what we thought," Anderson said. "The injury was a little bit more than what everybody in the building thought, including himself."

          So what was the injury? Anderson described it as a sprained knee, but he couldn't call it that with any kind of certainty.

          "He'd never really tell me. It was tough. I would say sprained knee," Anderson said. "Obviously, it's the same knee injury he's had before in his career. Obviously, I had surgery on my meniscus and once you have a knee, you always have a knee. So it aggravates. If he was getting a lot of touches earlier in the year -- obviously, him being one of the best running backs that probably was the case."

          Gurley dealt with a knee injury at both the beginning and the end of the regular season, which led to the Rams sitting him for their final two games of the season and signing Anderson to fill in. Anderson played well in relief of Gurley in Weeks 16 and 17, rushing for 299 yards and two touchdowns as the Rams secured a first-round playoff bye.

          When it came time for their playoff run to begin against the Cowboys in the divisional round, Anderson and Gurley shared touches, and both of them thrived. Gurley rushed for 115 yards and a touchdown on 16 carries while Anderson racked up 123 yards and two touchdowns on 23 carries.

          Gurley certainly looked healthy.

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          But Gurley was almost entirely absent in the NFC title game, garnering four carries for 10 yards and dropping a couple of passes in the early going while Anderson carried the ball 16 times for 44 yards.

          "When...
          -02-20-2019, 08:38 AM
        • r8rh8rmike
          Rams RB Gurley says knee 'feeling pretty good'
          by r8rh8rmike
          Rams RB Gurley says knee 'feeling pretty good'

          3:26 PM PT
          Lindsey Thiry ESPN

          THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- Running back Todd Gurley reported Monday for the first day of the Los Angeles Rams' voluntary workout program prepared to answer numerous questions about the status of his left knee.

          "It's feeling pretty good," Gurley said. "Taking it day by day."

          Gurley said there was "not really" any discussion about the possibility of an offseason procedure on his knee, and that his immediate focus was on the present when asked if a long-term management plan was in place.

          "All I need to worry about is how I'm feeling right now," Gurley said. "I don't know how I'm going to be feeling six months from now. So like I said, just kind of keep working hard, doing what I've been doing these past couple of years."

          When asked if he was able to confirm reports that he had a degenerative knee or arthritis, Gurley avoided any such label.

          "I mean, all I can focus on is how I'm doing right now," Gurley said. "Feeling pretty good, like I said, taking it day by day and just trying to get better, get ready for the next season."

          Gurley's left knee, which was surgically repaired in 2014, kept him sidelined for Weeks 16 and 17, after he rushed for 1,251 yards and scored a league-best 21 touchdowns in 14 games.

          Gurley returned for the playoffs and rushed for 115 yards and a touchdown in a divisional-round win over the Dallas Cowboys.

          However, his performances in the NFC Championship Game and Super Bowl LIII led to continued speculation that his knee continued to cause discomfort.

          Against the New Orleans Saints in the conference title game, he gained only 13 total yards on five touches. And in a loss to the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LIII, he rushed for 35 yards on 10 carries.

          Rams coach Sean McVay said Monday that Gurley, who last July signed a four-year, $60 million extension, would remain a central part of the offense.

          "Todd has shown that he is capable of carrying the workload," McVay said of Gurley, who has rushed for more than 1,000 yards in consecutive seasons. "Todd is a guy that's been a focal point of this offense. He's going to continue to be."...
          -04-16-2019, 02:01 PM
        • Nick
          Where in the World is Todd Gurley?
          by Nick
          Forgive my weak attempt at a Carmen Sandiego reference, but I think the question needs to be asked again and again until we have an answer.

          Through the regular season, Gurley averaged 18.2 rushes per game and four receptions per game. In the playoffs, he rushed the ball ten times a game on average and caught four passes in three contests.

          This offense is built through Gurley. The strength of the running game is what makes play action so effective. Finding ways to get the ball in Gurley's hands should be priority number one for anyone making decisions about this offense, yet it seems like after his injury, and more specifically after the Dallas playoff win, Gurley just disappeared from the gameplan.

          There are some people across the internet - I know because I've seen the responses in the Twitter feeds of those who cover the Rams - who are abandoning ship on Gurley. I think it's way too soon for that kind of overreaction. But it really does make you wonder, in the biggest game of his career, why Sean McVay didn't do more to make Gurley a focal point of the gameplan.

          The Rams insist he's completely healthy, and Gurley does as well. I wouldn't be surprised, though, to find out in a couple of weeks that he had some nagging injury that needs cleaned up over the offseason. Still, it would be rather baffling if that's the case after so much insistence to the contrary.

          It kind of makes me wonder if there's something else going on behind the scenes, some kind of personal issue that Gurley is going through and the Rams have been trying to help him by easing his workload or not putting too much on his plate. I have no evidence or anything to base this off of, aside from just the mere speculation that will occur when someone who normally is so heavily part of a gameplan gets left behind so strangely.

          Either way, the Rams need to spend this offseason looking in the mirror and figuring out why, when all the chips were on the table, they kept their stud workhorse on the sidelines as much as they did. Maybe Gurley just needs an offseason away from football to get back to his normal self or to recover from whatever ails him. Let's hope that's the case, and we're not looking at the symptoms of a bigger problem here, either for Gurley or McVay....
          -02-04-2019, 05:04 AM
        • Nick
          Rams facing this painful question: Are Todd Gurley’s best years behind him?
          by Nick
          Rams facing this painful question: Are Todd Gurley’s best years behind him?
          By Vincent Bonsignore
          Mar 3, 2019

          INDIANAPOLIS​ — There is finally​ some​ clarity​ on the condition​ of Todd Gurley’s​ left knee,​ and the​ news over the​ weekend painted​​ a gloomy picture for the Rams’ star running back.

          On Friday, John Breech of CBS Sports reported that the Rams might consider stem cell treatment for Gurley’s knee, which was surgically repaired in 2014 after an ACL tear during his junior year at Georgia. On Saturday, Jeff Howe of The Athletic reported that recent tests have revealed Gurley is dealing with arthritis in the knee.

          Both revelations cast doubt on the future of Gurley, who signed a four-year contract extension worth $60 million last summer that takes him through the 2023 season and guarantees him $45 million.

          With head coach Sean McVay talking about putting a plan in place to manage Gurley’s workload and general manager Les Snead pondering the potential need to add another running back alongside him, a dreaded question the Rams and their fans never wanted to contemplate is now absolutely valid.

          Are Gurley’s best years behind him?

          Since arthritis is a common occurrence in knees that have been surgically repaired, it is possible Gurley could be suffering from the condition. An orthopedic surgeon, speaking anonymously to The Athletic, said: “When you use the words arthritis in a knee that had an ACL back in college, that’s the connection. You’ve lost the alignment, and the tires are wearing out prematurely.”

          If that is indeed the case, it creates an ominous situation for Gurley based on multiple doctors consulted, including Dr. Jesse Morse of Florida Orthopedic Specialists.

          “Without personally examining him, my answers will obviously be very generalized, but unfortunately I believe Gurley has peaked and will not be able to repeat his record-breaking effectiveness,” Dr. Morse said. “He could possibly have one to two more years of elite top-five running back talent, but he will likely lose a step.”

          Publicly and privately, the Rams are not indicating anything more beyond the recent comments by McVay and Snead that Gurley was dealing with “wear and tear” issues late in the season.

          McVay said this week at the NFL Scouting Combine that surgery is not planned for Gurley. According to the doctors consulted by The Athletic, Gurley clearly has a condition that requires management rather than an injury that needs surgery.

          As far as stem cell treatment — which some doctors insist is a radical and not-yet-proven treatment that should be approached cautiously — Rams sources said no such course of action has been discussed within the organization.

          McVay and Snead have talked about putting a plan in place that will help keep Gurley...
          -03-04-2019, 07:17 AM
        • RamDez
          Gurley doubtful - Talib out!
          by RamDez
          The Los Angeles Rams will likely be without Todd Gurley in Sunday's pivotal NFC West showdown with the San Francisco 49ers.

          Coach Sean McVay said Friday that the star running back is doubtful for the Week 6 tilt.

          Gurley missed practice this week due to a quad injury suffered in last Thursday's loss at Seattle.
          "You feel something during the game and then I guess the adrenaline ...," Gurley said Thursday, when asked about suffering the injury. "Most definitely, though, it's those days off for sure -- then it just kind of kept lingering on. It's been getting a lot better since the day after the game -- always a positive way to look at things."

          Given that the Rams had 10 days of rest between games, Gurley not being right this week wasn't encouraging.

          The quad injury is the latest setback in a disappointing season thus far for the superstar running back. Gurley spent all offseason answering questions about the knee injury that kept him out late last season and hindered his production during L.A.'s playoff run.

          Gurley led NFL with 6,430 scrimmage yards from 2015-2018. In 2019, he ranks 53rd with 338 scrimmage yards. The running back is averaging career-lows in carries per game (12.8), rush yards per game (54), touches per game (15.6), and scrimmage yards per game (67.6).

          Assuming Gurley is unable to play Sunday, the Rams will lean on Malcolm Brown versus the 49ers. Rookie Darrell Henderson will likely see an uptick in snaps after carrying the ball a single time -- just two offensive snaps -- in three games played.

          McVay also announced starting corner Aqib Talib is out Sunday.

          The coach added that three players have been evacuated from their homes because of the Saddleridge Fire, which has burned roughly 4,700 acres thus far, in Southern California: Todd Gurley, Samson Ebukam and John Johnson....
          -10-11-2019, 02:27 PM
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