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  • How CA's Governor will Ruin the Season for the Rams, Chargers, Niners & the NFL

    Read the article for full details, but he recently said, “It’s difficult to imagine a stadium that’s filled until we have immunity and until we have a vaccine,” Newsom said. “There are conditions that persist in this state and this nation that make re-opening very, very challenging.”

    Currently in CA we are in only in Stage 1 of his 4 Stage plan, where Stage 4 is a full re-opening. For a county to qualify just to get to Stage 2 ALL of these requirements must be met:
    • No more than one new COVID-19 case per 10,000 residents in the past 14 days (highly unlikely to happen anytime soon in Los Angeles County)
    • No COVID-19 deaths in the past 14 days. (this is the one that there is zero chance of being fulfilled anytime soon in Los Angeles County)
    • Essential workers must have access to PPE
    • A minimum of 1.5 tests per 100,000 residents being conducted daily
    • At least 15 contact tracers per 100,000 residents
    • Ability to temporarily house 15% of the county's homeless population
    • Hospitals are equipped to handle a 35% surge at minimum
    • Nursing facilities have a two-week supply of PPE
    • Continue to monitor metrics to potentially re-enact restrictions
    I can't imagine what he'll require for Stage 3 and Stage 4. I know he has said for Stage 4 to happen there will have to be a vaccine available to all, and who knows when that will happen.

    I will be VERY surprised if there is any NFL football in California this year, and probably not even the NFL. Only way I can see the Rams, Chargers, and Niners playing is if they come to an agreement with an out of state stadium.
    Last edited by RamFan_Til_I_Die; -05-11-2020, 02:39 PM.

  • #2

    Writing on the wall. I have felt this was the case for quite some time. Curve flattened but goal post moving now


    • #3
      Originally posted by RamFan_Til_I_Die View Post

      ...I will be VERY surprised if there is any NFL football in California this year, and probably not even the NFL. Only way I can see the Rams, Chargers, and Whiners playing is if they come to an agreement with an out of state stadium.

      Agreed. One word: Unlikely

      Need to come up with a VERY unprecedented plan.
      Last edited by RealRam; -05-12-2020, 02:33 PM. Reason: Tyop


      • #4
        It's the elephant in the room because we're all very hopeful and so over the distancing and home confinement. But the truth is, we are far from out of the woods, and the after effects of this will linger for a long time. And we haven't even really discussed the potential for a 2nd wave of this- something many experts feel is a distinct possibility.

        Until people become comfortable going out where large groups are congregated, sports will not resemble what they've traditionally been, pure and simple. To get peace of mind, easy access to testing and effective treatments- still works in progress- will be needed until there is a vaccine available.


        • #5
          If my figures are correct LA deaths in 2018-2019 from the Flu totaled 164. To date Covid-19 deaths are 1,569 in only 2 mths. Pls let that sink in for those thinking the Rams should be in training camp. No one knows where we will be in Sept. but it ain’t good.


          • #6
            Originally posted by 99rams View Post
            If my figures are correct LA deaths in 2018-2019 from the Flu totaled 164. To date Covid-19 deaths are 1,569 in only 2 mths. Pls let that sink in for those thinking the Rams should be in training camp. No one knows where we will be in Sept. but it ain’t good.
            High population density cities that rely on mass public transportation, like New York and Los Angeles are a long way from being back to normal.

            MLB claims there season will start up in July. There is literally no way that is happening in CA or NY. The governors have said as much. MLB has backup plans for playing outside of these areas to get around government restrictions, and the only way I can see the NFL or any other sport having a season is to do the same.

            If & when things do open up late in the year, it will have to be without fans. In all likelihood it will sadly be 2021 before we watch any major league or collegiate sport in person in CA or NY or places like them.


            • #7
              I just saw on the CBS news (I live in NJ) that The CA Governor extended the stay at home order in LA County for the next three months. If this is accurate, you can forget any chance of the Rams playing home games at SoFi in September- and that of course will impact the entire NFL.


              • #8
                I wonder if the NFL would consider doing something like NASCAR is doing. Have all the teams playing in a neutral location that causes less travel, and maybe having teams use the same stadiums several days a week. Have two or three games a day in each stadium, a couple or few stadiums over a couple days should take care of it.



                • #9
                  What a mess.


                  • #10
                    NJRam, for the record that was a “comment” made by the LA Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer and the Mayor immediately walked it back. The Gov was not involved. Not to say this could not happen but it was not the Governor or Mayor that uttered this and the press ran with it.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 99rams View Post
                      NJRam, for the record that was a “comment” made by the LA Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer and the Mayor immediately walked it back. The Gov was not involved. Not to say this could not happen but it was not the Governor or Mayor that uttered this and the press ran with it.
                      Thank you for the clarification. I'm sure even if this stance was walked back a bit, as the mayor suggests, the county will still not be close enough in August to the type of "normalcy" required to host NFL football in September.


                      • #12
                        Tesla bucked the CA state orders and opened for the 2nd day. I’m not posting this as political but it’s evident big companies like Tesla could get through for a couple months where true mom & pop biz goes down the drain in a few weeks, yet Tesla gets the break.

                        CA will have to reopen and more people will die. It’s pretty simple. Not enough people maintain distancing or safety and there is no way drunk, screaming fans filling stadiums will happen this year.


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 99rams View Post
                          NJRam, for the record that was a “comment” made by the LA Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer and the Mayor immediately walked it back. The Gov was not involved. Not to say this could not happen but it was not the Governor or Mayor that uttered this and the press ran with it.
                          Both the mayor of LA and the Governor made statements last month that would suggest no sporting events in 2020 with large crowds. Where we'll be in a few months remains to be seen, but things look iffy:

                          Gov. Gavin Newsom said this week he also does not expect mass gatherings to return this summer, but he has not been more specific about a date. He released a plan to modify the state's coronavirus restrictions, saying that there would be no large-scale events until there is herd immunity and/or a vaccine. This could be months away or longer.

                          "Large-scale events that bring in hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of strangers altogether across every conceivable difference, health and otherwise, is not in the cards based upon our current guidelines and current expectations," Newsom said.
                          Angelenos should not expect to see large gatherings, such as sporting events and concerts with fans in attendance, returning to Los Angeles until next year, Mayor Eric Garcetti said Wednesday.

                          "Nothing I've heard would indicate that we'll be having thousands of people gathering anytime soon and probably not for the rest of this year," Garcetti told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
                          Garcetti did add this caveat:

                          "But I can hope we can perhaps watch sporting events without audiences on TV ... listen to concerts as we've been doing.''


                          • #14
                            The NFL has a contingency plan for California teams to play out of state for their "home" games if they can't play here.
                            "The disappointment of losing is huge!"

                            Jack Youngblood


                            • #15
                              We are looking at the fan attendance in stadiums, which is certainly a big part of the equation, but players are also in the mix. I have learned that the NFLPA will have discussions with the league concerning player safety as it relates to testing. The NFLPA has said they will not accept tests that take away from those which may be available for the general public. However that will be in several months and there are likely to be many more tests available, plus test which provide an instant read-out.

                              According to the new CBA which was recently agreed upon, whether there is a season or not, players will receive guaranteed portions of their pay. You can be sure Stan Kroenke is not going to pay Jared Goff $33.5m or whatever portion of that is guaranteed with no revenue stream from TV. In-stadium revenue may be unattainable. The Rams may be playing their early games elsewhere. Hard to picture.


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