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  • UPDATE: Owners approve lending Rams $500 million for stadium

    The Rams need more financing for SoFi Stadium, which has a price tag that keeps rising.

    According to Daniel Kaplan of, the Rams’ request for up to $500 million in additional NFL stadium financing and additional time to pay it back is on the agenda for next week’s virtual owners meeting.

    The request is on top of the $400 million the Rams already borrowed from the league’s stadium lending program. The team also wants to pay the loan back over 30 years rather than the typical 15 years.

    The stadium has seen cost overruns and slower than expected personal seat license sales, per Kaplan, and all teams anticipate lost ticket revenue this fall.

    The price tag of the stadium, which the Chargers will share, was $2.2 billion when owners approved the Rams’ Inglewood, California, proposal in January 2016. The estimated final cost of the stadium, which includes a retail and entertainment district, has ballooned to somewhere between $5 billion and $6 billion, according to Kaplan.

    Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, which also remains under construction, is the second-most expensive stadium in league history at $1.9 billion.

    SoFi Stadium is scheduled to open this summer, but it remains to be seen how the COVID-19 pandemic will affect that.

    NFL owners will vote next week to increase the borrowing limit for all teams from $350 million to $500 million in case games are played without fans.

  • #2
    "Recent reports also indicate that 10% of said funds will be allocated to redo the Los Angeles Rams new uniform design."

    [ (^_^) Wishful thinking ... Sorry for butting in here. ]


    • #3
      Make stan sell off his holding to pay for the stadium, or get a loan from LA. Shoot, he could also get a standard business loan with the team as collateral based on the supposed increase in value for just moving to LA.

      By all rules of the NFL's supposed relocation procedures, they should have stayed in STL, And the stadium would have been done by now without the need to ask the NFL for additional funding that is against the stadium funding rules. Of course, I am sure the NFL will break those rules also, just so they won't have to admit that the RAMS and the NFL would have been better off with the RAMS staying in STL.



      • #4
        Todd Gurley, Brandin Cooks, cap deficit and now this. It’s been an arithmetic nightmare offseason. Thank goodness we have a new logo and uniform, oh wait, maybe not.

        I truly hope that this all is not a harbinger of how the season will unfold.
        Last edited by mde8352gorams; -05-15-2020, 11:03 AM.


        • #5
          I’m only seeking a 50 million dollar loan to stock up on our peachy keen new apparel.


          • #6
            I think the whole season is a loss but who knows? IMHO they squandered several opportunities and COVID is taking care of the rest. The stadium should have, could have been finished last year, on budget. The contracts could have been dealt with last year when Gurley and Cooks had more value (Cooks did gain us Jefferson). The Uniform upgrade could have, should have been the classic Blue/Yellow with wider bold horns or simply adding the blue depth lines within the horns, not “2 bananas”. The phallic dead goat head should have been dropped. SOMEONE should have caught this. The logo is simply terrible. The Rams came up with 3 UNIs. The BLUE & YELLOW ARE FINE but the anemic Bone and the all Blue (color rush?) are just flat out confusing. Drab and unimaginative. No color rush? No White horns, No Throwbacks? I know they will release new alternatives 2021 & 2022 but the Chargers flat out smoked us with SIX new UNI designs this year. JJ says, FIND ANOTHER TEAM? Well JJ, if the RAMS keep treating their fans this way..they won’t have to travel far.


            • #7
              Man this offseason has felt like one ever lasting train wreck to me and this doesn't help any. Really, you need more money? Come on man.

              "I've been saving the Universe for over a thousand years. I figure it owes me just this once."


              • #8
                Dez is too shy to admit it, but he had 4 front row tix to the taylor swift concert that was supposed to open the new stadium before it got covid-cancelled

                ramming speed to all

                general counsel


                • #9
                  only got the 2 GC, for you and me ;)

                  Keeping the Rams Nation Talking


                  • #10
                    A Taylor Swift concert would be entertaining. Seriously. But only once.
                    “Oh, 100 percent,” Donald said. “I feel like the words, ‘Thank you,’ ain’t enough. You’ve got to show it... Instead of saying thank you — show it.”


                    • #11
                      I respect many of the posters here. I use to be a big St. Louis Rams fan from the time they moved to St. Louis until they left. They gave St. Louis a few good years early and then had a decade of bad football. Kroenke was a Missouri guy and had University of Missouri ties with his family and donating money to them. He had all the money he needed and St. Louis was willing to pay for a good portion of the stadium. St. Louis is a good sports town and when the XFL Battle Hawks came they supported them. They started out selling the lower area and they were selling out the games so they opened up the entire stadium. The NFL I could see screwing over St. Louis but Kroenke who had strong ties to the area and could have done some good for the area not only screwed St. Louis over but he bashed them on his way out. Every since then I don't watch any game unless my wife happens to have on the Packers I might watch a few minutes. She is a Packers fan from having grew up in Wisconsin. The one good thing about the Packers is their fan owned. I really do despise the NFL, Kroenke, and the owners for what they did to St. Louis after all the support St. Louis showed and willingness to go in on a new stadium when other cities were not. I used to be on this forum posting multiple times a day. This is the first time I have been to this forum since the Rams left and I was surprised my login even worked. I hope the NFL suffers and I hope Kroenkes stadium is a bust. Say what you want but they screwed St. Louis and I would like to see them get screwed.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ljcrayton View Post
                        The stadium has seen cost overruns and slower than expected personal seat license sales
                        Ya think?? The PSL and ticket prices are outrageous!


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RamFan_Til_I_Die View Post
                          Ya think?? The PSL and ticket prices are outrageous!
                          Are they? I'm not in the loop as I haven't gone to a game in several years, but I see on the Rams' ticket site, season tickets are starting at $105 per game, including licensing. I'm assuming that's for the nose bleed seats, but I paid around $85-$90 for single game tickets every year I went to St. Louis to see games for so so seats.


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by r8rh8rmike View Post

                            Are they? I'm not in the loop as I haven't gone to a game in several years, but I see on the Rams' ticket site, season tickets are starting at $105 per game, including licensing. I'm assuming that's for the nose bleed seats, but I paid around $85-$90 for single game tickets every year I went to St. Louis to see games for so so seats.
                            My season tickets in the coliseum were on the visitors side, 20 yard line, row 21. Not the best seats but decent. Cost was $135/game with no SSL. Those same seats now are $375/game ($3,750/year since you have to pay for 10 games) plus a SSL of $25,000 per seat. No way in hell I'm paying that.

                            Anything on the lower section, or in the second section on the sidelines, is considered luxury now, with full service and all the fancy crap rich people will eat up. Regular fans are priced out if they want good seats.

                            Literally only the worst seats in the house are affordable. And why even pay that when you can see and enjoy a game better from home? I probably will still go once a year, but you save a TON of money buying single game tickets through StubHub or NFLticketexchange. And even then it will have to be mediocre or bad seats.

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                            • #15
                              I probably will still go once a year, but you save a TON of money buying single game tickets through StubHub or NFLticketexchange. And even then it will have to be mediocre or bad seats.
                              Yeah, ticket outlets are a real bargain these days, especially in LA. We'll see what the availability for SoFi is and how much tickets go for. If Garcetti and Newsome don't ban sporting events in 2020, I might try to join you for a game.


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