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  • Who stays next year

    Hakim Contract is up next year. Do you renew it or will the younger players step into his role? Keep in mind that Proehl is retiring after this season.:eek:

  • #2
    with Proehl retiring, just what is the picture with our WR's?

    I keep hearing good things about our late round pick ??


    • #3
      Warner's future receivers

      Both late round picks are doing good, but nowhere near playing status...

      Martz @ Final Mini Camp Practice, June 3
      "On (2001 sixth round draft selection) WR Francis St. Paul’s progress?: Well he’s making progress. Both he and (Milton) Wynn are making a lot of progress. They’re not nearly where they need to be, but they made good progress today."

      The two will probably remain on the practice team next year. St. Paul may see some duty as KR or maybe PR, but that will depend on their progress.

      My thoughts...keep Az, Proehl will be direly missed, wait and see on the two rooks.


      • #4
        Here are the rundowns from

        Francis St. Paul
        ROUND 6, PICK 34, OVERALL PICK 197
        5-9, 180, 4.45

        Notes: Has run in the low 4.3s on a superfast surface. High school running back. Did not play early in 1997 while moving to wide receiver but gave up red-shirt year and caught two passes for 83 yards and one touchdown and had 214 all-purpose yards. Team's top pass catcher in '98, when he caught 46-767-7. All-Big Sky in '99, when he grabbed 67-987-13. Was ruled ineligible for six games he played in '99, so he missed six non-consecutive games over the course of the 2000 season. Came back to catch 29-230-2 in five games.

        Positives: Not as fast as 4.3 times but still has really good speed and quickness. Shows some shake-and-bake with the ball.

        Negatives: Small target. Not a superburner. Somewhat inconsistent hands. Played in run-and-shoot and spread offenses that made his size less of a negative and made it easier for him to avoid being jammed at the line. Has returned kicks on a limited basis and has not stood out.

        College Stats:
        Milton Wynn
        ROUND 4, PICK 21, OVERALL PICK 116
        6-2, 207, 4.47

        Notes: Played wide receiver at Bakersfield College in 1996. Transferred to Los Angeles Valley College and ran track (10.7 seconds in the 100 meters, 21.6 in the 200, 48.3 in the 400) and played basketball in '97, but he did not play football because of an injury that according to NCAA records was not recorded properly. Went back to football in '98 and caught 44 passes for 751 yards and seven touchdowns. Enrolled at Washington State in January of '99. Played in the '99 opener and caught 3-20-0. Broke his finger in three places during punt-block practice after the opener and missed the rest of the year. Came back in 2000 to start every game at flanker and to win second-team All-Pacific-10 honors. Caught 52-964-5 and carried the ball two times for 32 yards and one touchdown. Expected to get a sixth year of eligibility and is appealing NCAA's decision not to grant. This player was included in this book because, if he loses his appeal, he could be in the April draft or in the supplemental draft held later in the spring. School has timed Wynn in 4.37 on a fast surface.

        Positives: Excellent size and all-around athletic ability. Big and fast with exceptional jumping ability. Catches the ball well. Can run after the catch.

        Negatives: Not a polished receiver. Needs route refinement. Must be more consistent catching the ball. Could really have used the extra year in college.

        Summary: A little raw but big and talented. May have a chance to be special, but he is not a sure thing.

        College Stats:
        Again, good receivers, but will need a lot of practice.


        • #5

          I, for one, am extremely excited about our WR draft picks. I think that with a season under their belts they could be very good guys to have around.


          • #6
            If Hakim doesn't hold on to the ball this year, let him go. We are in a great spot draft wise, with the upgrade of the D this time, we can look at the O next year. Maybe a WR from Miami would like to join us next year? Or, there is a WR here at University of Texas named Roy Williams who will be coming to the NFL next year and is just a burner. 6'2, lightening speed and great hands.


            • #7
              I agree. Hakim is a bog time player but if he can't keep hold of the ball this year, then maybe it will be his last. You never know what we might draft next year. I thinkit will be a WR or 2, maybe a HB( if candidate is a bust). Its such a shame that we will have to pick so low though!
              The Breakfast Club. You want cheese with that?


              • #8
                Keep Hakim

                Are those of you who are down on hakim because of the fumble in the playoffs? I was disappointed but he is EXPLOSIVE!! His playmaking ability more than makes up for his fumbles.

                I say keep him until it is no longer possible....


                • #9
                  No, not at all complaining about his explosiveness, or his fumbles technically. I am concerned about his tendency to drop a pass that hits his hands right in stride.


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